Bloomington High School student faces felony charge for gun in car

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  • japartridge

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    You'll have to fight the local, state, and feds on this one. Everyone wants be 'for the children.'

    no, you are incorrect, the felony charges are a state law, not federal or local.... there was a bill proposed that I think got orphaned for this session due to lack of time that would have changed this to a misdemeanor instead of the felony.
     

    KA9NTZ

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    Got to love the gun laws in Indiana...I was at a school conference today and saw these>>




    I can't bring my gun's with me, but they can hang them on the wall at an Indiana High School!!!
     

    chickenman

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    Let me first ask this. Where in the Hell are the Parnets on this one? This kid is only 17. Stop and think for a minute. He is a child. Not a adult. The problem is, it's the Law. He should have not had it on the school propety. If he did, He should have cover up the Rifle. But there again, Where was the Parnets at? I went to this High School. (class of 94). It was a little different back then. But that was before Columbin. IU prof.kids, Dr. kids, Lawyer kids all go there and most kids (when I went there) were and still are pretty liberal. I agree! I would like to see this law changed but for the adults. Not the kids. (18 and younger) When I take my child to school and stand outside with her. Till the bell rings. I wonder how I will protect her. I can't even bring a gun on school proptey. If a situation arises. I have a friends with daughters that shoot in 4H. They don't even dare to bring a gun on school propety because the parnets make sure thier daughter(s) know the law. I just hope this young fellow doesnt get the book thrown at him because the lack of parneting skills his parnets have.
     
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    vette3667

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    I agree that this law is stupid but as a responsible gun owner he should have remembered to take it out of the truck.

    Or at a minimum have it out of sight? Who leaves a gun where it can be seen? That's a bad ideas for a lot of reasons. When ever I have guns with me my goal is that NO ONE knows I have them with me. On my body, in my car, etc.
     

    mtgasten

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    Can't post a link because they're subscription only, but this AM's Herald Times had a story about a student facing felony charges for a gun on school property. Apparently target shooting the previous day and stayed over at a friends house. Went to school from the friends without going home first and forgot he still had the gun with him. Other students saw the rifle in his back seat and turned him in.

    Similar thing happened to one of my sisters friends in highschool, he taught martial arts and stuff like that, well he had a class the night before and spent the night at a friends and forgot the weapons they used in the class he was teaching were still in the car and they expelled him from the school and im not sure if he faced felony charges...(this was all in Kentucky btw)
     

    Hornett

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    First, I totally disagree with KA9NTZ and WC Deer Hunter. I think those guns being on display is FULL OF WIN!! I choose to ignore the irony of me not being able to leave a gun in my car and them being able to display historic weapons and just chalk it up to there still being hope for America.

    I also disagree with the posters that are soooo smart and soooo organized in their every day lives that they cannot fathom anyone forgetting about a gun in the back seat. I did it myself. Through some turn of events I had to drive my daughters car one day to get the brakes fixed (I think)and that particular day I wet shooting. I had a glock in the case between the seats of her car. When I got back home I was late for church or something and just changed my clothes and went right back out IN MY OWN CAR. The next day my daughter called me from school and said "Dad you left your gun in my car. I went right to school and got it. Once I got it in my own car I was legal again. But yes, we are not all perfect enough to forget we had a gun in the car.
    I really think that shooting for some of you is such a rare event that it is actually difficult to believe that we can forget, but I have a gun in my possession EVERY day and it is not unusual to have a couple in my car for a day or two.

    Someone had righteous indignation because the rifle was in sight. So what? Has it been that long ago when every truck had a gun rack? And most of them had a shotgun on there.

    Give this kid a break. Zero tolerance is just a lazy and socialist way to manage a school. If a Student1 starts a fight and gets his butt thrashed by Student2 then Student1 should be expelled and Student2 should suffer no inconvenience at all. Just because Student2 did not allow himself to be victimized, doesn't make him bad. It just makes him an American male individual with a sense of right and wrong.
     

    youngda9

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    Let me first ask this. Where in the Hell are the Parnets on this one? This kid is only 17. Stop and think for a minute. He is a child. Not a adult. ....

    I feel sad for your children since you believe that a 17 year old cannot be trusted to do a little target shooting responsibly. Either you've failed as a parent to instill responsibility, safety, and values into them...or you are a neurotic parent that needs to cut the cord. If it's the latter then I bet they'll go nuts if they go to college away from home and are left without their overseer... :dunno:


    At 18 uncle sam can put a machine guns into their hands and send them overseas. At 17 they cannot target shoot. Come on :(

    The kid forgot, nobody was harmed or effected in any way, let's convict him of a felony. Lighten up.
     

    Hiker1911

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    Certain places are illegal for carry, or any kind of possession. Oh wait, it's a well publicized law (listed on multiple Internet websites).

    Off-limits in or on school property! Folks, that includes parking lots, or the edge of the school's lawn. It's about the same as asking to be arrested.

    And, yes, I lived in an era when kid's hunting rifles could be on school property locked in their (or their parent's) vehicle.
     

    chickenman

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    I feel sad for your children since you believe that a 17 year old cannot be trusted to do a little target shooting responsibly. Either you've failed as a parent to instill responsibility, safety, and values into them...or you are a neurotic parent that needs to cut the cord. If it's the latter then I bet they'll go nuts if they go to college away from home and are left without their overseer... :dunno:


    At 18 uncle sam can put a machine guns into their hands and send them overseas. At 17 they cannot target shoot. Come on :(

    The kid forgot, nobody was harmed or effected in any way, let's convict him of a felony. Lighten up.

    Re-read my post. I hope this young fellow DOESN'T get the book thrown at him. It was a mistake on his part. You can not have a firearm on school grounds. Period! You know some people take stuff seriously. This school is on a watch now because of this. There has also been rumors in this school of a fight that could take place. The rumors were there last week and then this kid brings a gun to school.
     

    jgreiner

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    Certain places are illegal for carry, or any kind of possession. Oh wait, it's a well publicized law (listed on multiple Internet websites).

    Off-limits in or on school property! Folks, that includes parking lots, or the edge of the school's lawn. It's about the same as asking to be arrested.

    And, yes, I lived in an era when kid's hunting rifles could be on school property locked in their (or their parent's) vehicle.

    Locked in a trunk? I brought my .22 rifle to class in 4th grade to do a presentation on gun safety for the class. It was stored in the corner of the classroom by the teachers desk until I went home with it. On the bus. Times have changed...and certainly not for the better in regards to the 2nd amendment.
     

    Monster Man

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    In '63 and '64 I used to take my .22 rifle on the school bus (with a box of ammo in my pocket). It was not in a case; I did not own one. During the school day I stood it in the corner just outside the principal's office, and took a different bus after school to a friends house, just so we could hunt together. I went to Clarksburg HS, which is no longer a HS. Lots of guys would do this. It is too bad that life today is not as simple as it was back then.

    I hope the kid is dealt with leniently.
     

    rgrimm01

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    Let me first ask this. Where in the Hell are the Parnets on this one? This kid is only 17.


    I will say that in today's political/legal environment, it was foolish to bring a firearm to school. I would almost bet that being familiar with firearms, he did not consider having it that big of a deal. Everyone remember being that age where we were bullet and fire proof? It was short sighted and foolish. Isn't youth a time where we make mistakes and learn from them to better equip ourselves to handle the challenge of survival when we are no longer afforded the immediate protection and guidance of our parents? To possibly saddle this young person with a felony that would follow him the rest of his life is so unfortunate.

    Now to the quote, whose parents knew 100% of the time exactly what you were doing and with whom you were doing it ? Who thinks as parents you know exactly what your 17 year olds are doing all the time? I cannot imagine how the underage drinking laws would still be on the books with all the parents seemingly ok with their minors drinking?
     
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