Bring in the U.N. to solve Chicago 'genocide,' Boykin says

[Thor]

Anybody who wants the UN here needs to read the book "Siege at Jadotville".

Peacekeeping only works when both sides want peace. That is pretty much never the case. If the UN closed down tomorrow the world would be no worse off...it would probably be an improvement as all that money spent on parties and trips could be put to better use.

 

[HoughMade]

I can't help but notice that you seem to subscribe to the notion. INGO isn't politically correct, so why are you being timid about telling us what the problem is?

Poverty bred by illegitimacy and a general breakdown of the nuclear family and basic morality.

Happy?

The "indigenous personnel" in South Chicago would annihilate the U.N. troops in about 2 days. We're talking about CHICAGO! Bring lots of body bags...

I don't know. They mainly seem interested in killing each other and the occasional innocent. Still a problem, but i don't know that do-nothings in blue hats are going to draw much fire.

 

[Tombs]

Chicago could be fixed in a few years with Duterte style drug policy, just applied to gangs and criminals.

Open season, no bag limit, immunity to those who clean up the streets. There will never be enough cops to solve the problem; drastic measures are necessary.

 

[HoughMade]

^^^ damn constitution, always gettin' in the way.

 

[Tombs]

^^^ damn constitution, always gettin' in the way.

Didn't stop hunting season on the mormons.

 

[HoughMade]

Didn't stop hunting season on the mormons.

Your "solution" also didn't work on the Mormons, now did it.

 

[Tombs]

Your "solution" also didn't work on the Mormons, now did it.

Most of them are in Utah and in northern Mexico. I'd say it was quite effective considering the area it was seeking to remove them from.

 

[actaeon277]

They'd probably be better for the population than Jon Burge was.

In fact, if INGO really thinks about this, it might be a pathway to a win-win.

Downstate Illinois is full of people who hate Chicago as much as we do. In fact, alot of them are alot like Hoosiers. Perhaps a deal could be brokered:
- Indiana gets to annex the lower 2/3 of the state;
- Chicago and the northern third becomes an autonomous region;
- We could build a wall and make Chicago pay for it;
- The UN could keep the peace in the Autonomous Region of Chicago.

Any objections?

I object to giving up land.
People want to be socialist, let them leave.

 

[Tombs]

Let me expand on my statements so you have an idea of my logic in this situation.

You have a lot of people who see crime as their only means for income, thusly their only means of survival. Giving them jobs is not going to reform them over night, that's outside of their experience, it's naive. Education will do nothing for the current generation, it will only "maybe" help future generations. And that's a big maybe, when things have been this bad for this long, it is now ingrained into culture, and it takes many generations for education to change culture.

The solution for the here and now is to make FIGHTING CRIME more profitable than committing crime. To make communities turn on their worst elements as a means for their own survival, instead of letting them continue an endless cycle of perpetual societal corruption.

It costs $40,000 or more per year to put someone in prison. Not including legal fees. There's no reason why we can't give an individual half, or even a quarter of that, to shut down a criminal in their own communities. There would be no more profitable options available, and it's not outside of their experience. Everyone knows who the bad and dangerous people are in their community, but as it stands now the only option is to work for them to survive.

This isn't much different from bounty hunting, except with considerably more latitude afforded to individuals.

Consider yourself a major drug dealer in a community. When all of your clients and middle men would earn far more money by killing you rather than working for you, how do you expect to stay in business?

Someone could most certainly stream line this concept and implement ethical guidelines for it, but I'm simply putting forth a concept.

 

[Thor]

"You have a lot of people who see crime as their only means for income"

And they need to die, the citizens need to defend themselves and put these feral animals in the ground. We don't need to pay to make it profitable for the criminals to start preying on each other...we need to kill them. Period. Dot. Exclamation point.

Consider yourself a major drug dealer in a community that wants you dead.

 

[rhino]

"You have a lot of people who see crime as their only means for income"

And they need to die, the citizens need to defend themselves and put these feral animals in the ground. We don't need to pay to make it profitable for the criminals to start preying on each other...we need to kill them. Period. Dot. Exclamation point.

Consider yourself a major drug dealer in a community that wants you dead.

I'd be more comfortable with your plan if we made significant revisions to what is a real, predatory crime and what is not. There are a lot of offenses listed in the law books that should not be crimes.

 

[T.Lex]

Most of them are in Utah and in northern Mexico. I'd say it was quite effective considering the area it was seeking to remove them from.

Meanwhile, all of the Mormons attending the new temple in Carmel are wondering what you are talking about.

 

[Route 45]

Meanwhile, all of the Mormons attending the new temple in Carmel are wondering what you are talking about.

Oh, I'm betting that they know exactly what he is talking about. Even though it's been, what, 175 years or so?

 

[HoughMade]

Oh, I'm betting that they know exactly what he is talking about. Even though it's been, what, 175 years or so?

I think the point, my point at least, is that an attempt at eradication did not accomplish that. Moving people around isn't eradication.

...but back to the proposed "solution", genocide for property crimes with no due process? Wonderful.

 

[T.Lex]

Oh, I'm betting that they know exactly what he is talking about. Even though it's been, what, 175 years or so?

Well, historically, sure. But the conclusion that "it worked" seems a stretch.

To put it another way, if the same strategy today returns the same results, there will be a proliferation of Chicagoans across the country within a couple generations.

That doesn't seem like a good policy.

 

[rhino]

Well, historically, sure. But the conclusion that "it worked" seems a stretch.

To put it another way, if the same strategy today returns the same results, there will be a proliferation of Chicagoans across the country within a couple generations.

That doesn't seem like a good policy.

Describe nightmares and horror movie plots much?!! DON'T SAY THAT AGAIN!

 

[T.Lex]

Describe nightmares and horror movie plots much?!! DON'T SAY THAT AGAIN!

"That."

 

[Sylvain]

I'd be more comfortable with your plan if we made significant revisions to what is a real, predatory crime and what is not. There are a lot of offenses listed in the law books that should not be crimes.

Are you saying we shouldn't put to death all the jaywalkers????

 

[rhino]

"That."

Why, you!!!

Are you saying we shouldn't put to death all the jaywalkers????

Jaywalkers are the worst of the worst!!! Summary executions all around!

 

[HoughMade]

...Jaywalkers are the worst of the worst!!! Summary executions all around!

​...Then they came for the jaywalkers, and there was no one left to speak for me.