Bullpup: FN FS2000, Kel-Tec RDB, and IWI Travor. Thoughts?

[Excalibur]

I'm still waiting to see how the MDR handles. Bullpups need to be more stream line and less like the FS2000

 

[Skillet4630]

Frank_N_Stein: Thanks for the heads up to the YouTude Military Arms Channel as he had a Kel-Tec RDB review ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BASgtPpYfF0 ). It was very thorough and it sounded like he preferred it over the FS2000 and Travor.

Excalibur, I just watched the video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSZ-jrr4LU4 ) and that looks like an interesting setup as well. Never heard of that one until today.

 

[Skillet4630]

Another fun fact, the MDR is currently available in caliber conversions. 5.56x45, 7.62x51, and .300BLK. https://deserttech.com/product_overview.php?product_id=4&load=product_overview

 

[cbhausen]

Wow, MDR went up to $2,275 and not shipping until July? Do they take your money now?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Wow, MDR went up to $2,275 and not shipping until July? Do they take your money now?

So much for the Kel-tec rep saying it was going to be less than the Tavor.

 

[indykid]

So much for the Kel-tec rep saying it was going to be less than the Tavor.

MDR is not Kel Tec if I am not mistaken.

 

[Dave Doehrman]

Thanks for the welcoming party everyone. I'm glad I took a buddies advice to join.

Can anyone confirm if the larger magazines will be accepted in the fn or travor? Their respective websites state that they don't. Whereas the Kel-Tec says any ar15 magazine.

The FS2000 has a sealing surface in the mag well that prevents some magazines from working . The seal is there to keep dust, dirt and moisture from coming in through the magazine opening. The seal can be removed with an exacto knife and then just about any magazine will work.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

MDR is not Kel Tec if I am not mistaken.

My bad. I got my alphabet guns mixed up.

 

[courier6]

Wow, MDR went up to $2,275 and not shipping until July? Do they take your money now?

The MDR has been "Shipping next quarter" for 3 years now. I wouldn't believe it.

Also, why has no one mentioned the Steyr AUG?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

The MDR has been "Shipping next quarter" for 3 years now. I wouldn't believe it.

Also, why has no one mentioned the Steyr AUG?

OP didn't list it as an option.

 

[chezuki]

If one of the choices is keltec, you should always choose something else.

 

[nra4ever]

Also, why has no one mentioned the Steyr AUG?

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[Skillet4630]

The AUG was mentioned, but because it lacks full ambidexterity without purchasing more parts. I'm a lefty here and I want to avoid brass crossing my face! With that being said, it only leaves me with the Kel-Tec RDB, Tavor (bought factory direct as a left hand shooter), and FS2000 for my 5.56 desires. But the Tavor, once converted, means that only lefty's can comfortably shoot it. Most of the people who I would take shooting are right handed. So in reality, the Kel-Tec, FS200, and actually now the Dessrt Arms MDR (which is too expensive for my tastes) are my preferred options.

 

[Skillet4630]

Chezuki, why do you think Kel-Tec is a bad choice? Care to share?

 

[Excalibur]

I personally don't like the placement of the release switch for the Kel-Tec. It's even closer to the back of your hand when you shoot. The Tavor at least has that further back a bit and the X95 has an AR style mag release. The FS2000 has a very positive mag release

 

[Psode27]

Chezuki, why do you think Kel-Tec is a bad choice? Care to share?

I'm GUESSING this statement comes from the thought to be mediocre reputation of the company. Of course, YMMV. I don't own one, but they catch some flak.
While I'd think hard about most things keltec, I dig the RFB. Only handled one, never shot one, but liked the way it felt. I REALLY liked that it takes FAL mags as well, though that may be irrelevant to many. I tried hard to talk a friend into buying one because I liked it, and in the research I did I don't recall any big red flags.
All you options are pretty sweet.

 

[Skillet4630]

Although the RFB also looked awesome, I'm just not in the market for a 7.62x51 rifle. Maybe in the future though!!!

 

[knutty]

The AUG was mentioned, but because it lacks full ambidexterity without purchasing more parts. I'm a lefty here and I want to avoid brass crossing my face! With that being said, it only leaves me with the Kel-Tec RDB, Tavor (bought factory direct as a left hand shooter), and FS2000 for my 5.56 desires. But the Tavor, once converted, means that only lefty's can comfortably shoot it. Most of the people who I would take shooting are right handed. So in reality, the Kel-Tec, FS200, and actually now the Dessrt Arms MDR (which is too expensive for my tastes) are my preferred options.

In that case the FS2000 is your best bet. The forward ejection makes it friendly for everyone, just remember it will only take USGI mags unless you modify it (dont do it). Otherwise its a great weapon, FN makes a great product and does some pretty in depth R&D unlike Keltec or Desert Arms where you have a good chance of getting a lemon.

Now that I think about it, I believe Magpul does make some PMAGs specifically for the FS2000?

 

[Skillet4630]

knutty: I read that concern about the FS2000 mag well seal. Although it would be nice to be able to place any mag into it, I think I would keep that seal in place as to not hurt future resale. Thanks for the advise on the FS2000. Now I just really gotta bear down and sort out which one I would like. The RDB or FS2000.

 

[Barry in IN]

The AUG was mentioned, but because it lacks full ambidexterity without purchasing more parts. I'm a lefty here and I want to avoid brass crossing my face! With that being said, it only leaves me with the Kel-Tec RDB, Tavor (bought factory direct as a left hand shooter), and FS2000 for my 5.56 desires. But the Tavor, once converted, means that only lefty's can comfortably shoot it. Most of the people who I would take shooting are right handed. So in reality, the Kel-Tec, FS200, and actually now the Dessrt Arms MDR (which is too expensive for my tastes) are my preferred options.

The AUG can be bought in LH configuration from a couple of sources. One is Pete Athens, who is the best AUG source anyway.
www.Pjs-SteyrAug.com
A call or email to Pete will probably be well worth your time. He's been selling AUGs since the first ones in the US.