Camp Atterbury, IN Appleseed Known Distance October 18-19, 2014

[Hop]

It's back! I'm SO addicted to these KD appleseed events. If you've done a normal 25 yd you've GOT to try putting what you've learned to the real test at the real distances. You'll need to carry your rifle, mags, ammo, snacks, drink, notebook/pen, binocs/spotter with you from berm to berm in 100 yd increments.

My bro-in-law & I are signed up. I'll be trying for rifleman using the M1A (Ginger) again with the AR-15 as backup (Mary Ann).

Info:
Appleseed Schedule

Registration:
Camp Atterbury, IN Appleseed Known Distance October... Tickets, Edinburgh - Eventbrite

It's an experience for sure. The last time I was down there I saw C130 dropping paratroopers/landing/takoff, police sniper training, ranges on fire with smoke blowing across our targets, heard machine gun fire, warthogs doing strafing runs, drones flying around, etc...

 

[Twangbanger]

Where it says, "...bring 350 rounds...," I assume this means the free ammo wagon will not be in attendance this time?

 

[grunt soldier]

Unfortunately not this time. Hopefully soon we will be working with a lot of industry partners again.

 

[brianheeter]

Make sure you get your personal and rifle info turned in if you plan on going. And don't forget to read the Atterbury instructions and put an X next to where it says, "I got it." You can find the instructions and the info sheet here:

Coming to Atterbury

Do it or you might not get in the gate. I know the guy who compiles the gate list and he's one cranky SOB!

C ya,

brian

 

[Hop]

Thanks Brian! Do you know the cutoff date for the personal / rifle info?

I've got two verified "KD Rifleman" capable AR-15s but am thinking about using my M1A or maybe one of my WWI/WWII bolt guns this time. Not sure which yet.

 

[ol' Huff]

If ammo is the reason people aren't coming let me know. .223 is out there and you can get 500 to your door for less than 140. Total cost for the class is going to be well under the cost of a one day door kicker class AND you get to know your rifle at actual RIFLE DISTANCES.

Don't let cost keep you away. I'm the boss for this event and I'll make it work for you. Also, I'll personally guarantee an improvement to your marksmanship. If you aren't better with your rifle on Sunday than you were on Saturday morning I'll refund the cost of your ammo.

 

[Robert Richardson]

Thanks Brian! Do you know the cutoff date for the personal / rifle info?

I've got two verified "KD Rifleman" capable AR-15s but am thinking about using my M1A or maybe one of my WWI/WWII bolt guns this time. Not sure which yet.

Shoot it with the M1A. More of a challenge.

 

[brianheeter]

Thanks Brian! Do you know the cutoff date for the personal / rifle info?

The deadline is 12:01 AM EDT 11OCT2014.

Sincerely,

The cranky SOB

 

[indychad]

I sooooo want to attend one of these. I want to hit a smaller event to get my feet wet first. Just inherited my fathers Rem. 700 in 270. Would love to get it dialed in and this sounds like the place to do so. What are the KDs that are shot?

 

[Hop]

I sooooo want to attend one of these. I want to hit a smaller event to get my feet wet first. Just inherited my fathers Rem. 700 in 270. Would love to get it dialed in and this sounds like the place to do so. What are the KDs that are shot?

I've been there several times and we've done 25 yard zeros, 5 squares, box drills a couple times. Most of the time we're on 100, 200, 300 & 400. I've only been on the 500 yard line once.

 

[brianheeter]

indychad,

I would recommend that you sign up for a 25 yard Appleseed this month and shoot .22LR to lay the foundation for doing Atterbury next month. We've got a shoot in Noblesville this weekend, Richmond the 13th and 14th, Bedford on the 20th and 21st and Brazil the 27th and 28th. What you learn at the "regular" Appleseed will allow you to get to the range with that Remington 700, get it sighted in and show up to Atterbury with a rifle that is ready to go so you only have to work on you, not the rifle. No one wants to be the guy that shows up with a rifle that isn't anywhere near what they thought it was as far as being sighted-in but it happens...frequently. The stuff we do at Atterbury at 25 yards is supposed to be a verification/confirmation that your rifle is ready to go. Often it turns into a major diagnostic session which slows EVERYBODY down and is frustrating for the shooter with the problem rifle.

I hope to see you on the line at Atterbury.

brian
Project Appleseed Instructor

 

[Hop]

Took the M1A out for some fine tuning today. Much much better now that the scope rings have been flipped. Zero malfunctions using 4 different loads. I'm going to have one hell of a time getting a good score though. This thing is a HEAVY beast.

I'm still impressed by the Wolf 150 gr ammo. Three 3 shot groups to rezero the scope and ALL were ~1 MOA @ 100 yards (off the sand bags). The Brazilian CBC made M80 shot just under 2 MOA. The Brazilian 168 gr "sniper" was ~1 MOA. The Privi PPU 168 gr match was also ~1 MOA. The Wolf 150, sniper & PPU all had very similar zeros. The Brazilian M80 was 2" low.

10 shots groups tend to open up to >4 MOA and drift down right though. The gun doesn't return to zero until it cools down a bit. I have some gas block shims on the way and will need to tune the stock a little. Hopefully I get it settled down before the shoot.

 

[SmileDocHill]

Thanks Brian! Do you know the cutoff date for the personal / rifle info?

I've got two verified "KD Rifleman" capable AR-15s but am thinking about using my M1A or maybe one of my WWI/WWII bolt guns this time. Not sure which yet.

Funny you say that HOP, IF I'm able to make it to this one I'll be shooting my Mosin 91/30 sniper rifle. I'd love to dope that out to at least 400 and see how I do with a bold action in the different positions. I'm getting 2-3MOA at 100 yards with but that was almost a couple years ago when I shot it last . I've already figured out how to rig the sling to serve the same role as a USGI sling but I've not doped it out past 100. I'd consider it a rack grade rifle, maybe slightly better, so any freedom loving 'merican "rifleman" worth his salt should be able to patch with it, right?
I would probably also want to know I'd have the opportunity to flush the barrel at some point so I didn't have the corrosive primer eating at it all day (or two days for that matter.)

 

[SmileDocHill]

Took the M1A out for some fine tuning today. Much much better now that the scope rings have been flipped. Zero malfunctions using 4 different loads. I'm going to have one hell of a time getting a good score though. This thing is a HEAVY beast.

I'm still impressed by the Wolf 150 gr ammo. Three 3 shot groups to rezero the scope and ALL were ~1 MOA @ 100 yards (off the sand bags). The Brazilian CBC made M80 shot just under 2 MOA. The Brazilian 168 gr "sniper" was ~1 MOA. The Privi PPU 168 gr match was also ~1 MOA. The Wolf 150, sniper & PPU all had very similar zeros. The Brazilian M80 was 2" low.

10 shots groups tend to open up to >4 MOA and drift down right though. The gun doesn't return to zero until it cools down a bit. I have some gas block shims on the way and will need to tune the stock a little. Hopefully I get it settled down before the shoot.

(Channeling my best "Ol'Huff") Calm down! That sounds like a lot of stress there... Take a second and breath....and know that Ol'Huff will be bossing this one and will help you get sorted out!

 

[Hop]

I'm real tempted to use the K31 but I have tandem aperture Mojo sights on that gun. I think the Mojo sights have enough range to shoot 400-500 yards. I figure I'd need ~12 MOA come up at 500. The goofy Mojo sights are ~.8 MOA per click making it a little tough to adjust.

 

[Cable]

I registered for the KD event today.

Next task is to figure out how to get the GI slings to work with the magpul handguard and CTR stock that i have on my AR15.

 

[Wild Deuce]

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[Hop]

I registered for the KD event today.

Next task is to figure out how to get the GI slings to work with the magpul handguard and CTR stock that i have on my AR15.

There's a couple ways. I have that handguard on my 14.5" upper.
You can:
- get a small QD mount. MOE® ACCESSORIES - MSA®-QD - MOE® Sling Attachment or https://delta3tactical.com/store/pr...unt-for-magpul-moe-handguards__37533_zoom.jpg or Impact Weapons Components
- install a small rail and use a picatinny mount with a QD or a sling loop.
- install a sling loop on the front sight base <- my favorite

The CTR stock has a built in QD sling mount hole.

 

[Mudcat]

There's a couple ways. I have that handguard on my 14.5" upper.
You can:
- get a small QD mount. MOE® ACCESSORIES - MSA®-QD - MOE® Sling Attachment or https://delta3tactical.com/store/pr...unt-for-magpul-moe-handguards__37533_zoom.jpg or Impact Weapons Components
- install a small rail and use a picatinny mount with a QD or a sling loop.
- install a sling loop on the front sight base <- my favorite

The CTR stock has a built in QD sling mount hole.

I use the sling mount on the front sight base works best for me. For the rear I just tie a small loop mof 550 cord and hook the sling clip on it. I've done this method for years and it has never failed me and is cheap.

 

[spitfire51]

I registered for the KD event today.

Next task is to figure out how to get the GI slings to work with the magpul handguard and CTR stock that i have on my AR15.

Judicious use of zip ties will solve that problem real quick.