Carry Question Zoo on a field trip

[GaDawg]

On May 30th we will be going to the zoo in Indy. I will go with my wife and my 2 kids. My oldest is on a field trip for school. This is my question since it is a school field trip is carrying off limits. I will not be an official chaperone. The only reason I am going is because we will be leaving after the field trip to go to Atlanta for a family visit. Just because it is a school function off school property shouldnt make it off limits. My reasoning is what if another family is just there having a family day and happen to be close to the school kids. What is the difference?

 

[long coat]

I believe the rolling school zone ended a few years ago, so you should be OK. Just make sure you CC, they can kick you out.

 

[GaDawg]

Someone else has to know something here

 

[rockhopper46038]

There is no law against you carrying at the zoo while on a school field trip or any other time. You can't ride the school bus there or back while armed though.

 

[Roadie]

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but the Bill that would eliminate the "rolling school zone" won't become law until July 1.

 

[rockhopper46038]

Somebody correct me if I am wrong, but the Bill that would eliminate the "rolling school zone" won't become law until July 1.

The "rolling school zone" isn't in effect now; what we managed to avoid was it going BACK into effect on July 1st.

However, I should have included in my post above that the OP should read the IC for themselves and draw their own conclusions, or consult a lawyer.

 

[daddymikey1975]

What zoo? Who owns the zoo? If it's city owned property he can't be kicked out

 

[hoosierdoc]

i was there today as part of a school trip. I never left my car at the school, did the drop off line, drove a few kids there, and dropped them off at the school. I didn't carry as there were too many gray areas. If you drive yourself and you are just there you would be fine legally.

 

[Bfish]

Yeah, as stated just no bus, but sounds like you're driving if you're then going to Atlanta... I know as long as I was driving myself etc, I would be carrying...

 

[Lectric102002]

On their web page, there is a help tab on the left side of the page. Click it and send them an email and ask about their firearms policy.

Indianapolis Zoo Plan Your Visit

 

[BehindBlueI's]

What zoo? Who owns the zoo? If it's city owned property he can't be kicked out

On May 30th we will be going to the zoo in Indy.

Indy zoo is private, not city owned.

Indiana Code 35-47-9

IC 35-47-9-2 Version a
Possession of firearms on school property or on a school bus; felony
Note: This version of section amended by P.L.172-2013, SEC.13. See also following version of this section amended by P.L.158-2013, SEC.601, effective 7-1-2014.
Sec. 2. A person who possesses a firearm:
(1) in or on school property; or
(2) on a school bus;
commits a Class D felony.

However, after July 1

IC 35-47-9-2 Version b
Possession of firearms on school property, at school function, or on school bus; felony
Note: This version of section amended by P.L.158-2013, SEC.601, effective 7-1-2014. See also preceding version of this section
amended by P.L.172-2013, SEC.13.
Sec. 2. A person who knowingly or intentionally possesses a firearm:
(1) in or on school property;
(2) in or on property that is being used by a school for a school function; or
(3) on a school bus;
commits a Level 6 felony.

 

[GaDawg]

I am driving myself and it is the Indy zoo. I do plan on CC. I don't want to test a grey area on this trip but in case I was discovered just trying to make sure it would t turn into a nightmare.

 

[Dirtebiker]

On their web page, there is a help tab on the left side of the page. Click it and send them an email and ask about their firearms policy.

Indianapolis Zoo Plan Your Visit

Why?

 

[Mr. Habib]

Carry is against zoo policy, but not illegal. The rolling school zone was repealed last year and reaffirmed this year permanently. Short answer; you can legally carry there on the field trip providing you don't ride the school bus. However, if you are discovered, the zoo can ask you to leave just like any other property owner could.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Mostly correct, BBI, however, the "after July 1" part of your post, while it is current IC, has been superseded by SEA 229, aka PL 157 (2014):

" ...
SECTION 4. IC 35-47-9-1, AS AMENDED BY P.L.172-2013,
SECTION 12, IS AMENDED TO READ AS FOLLOWS [EFFECTIVE
JULY 1, 2014]: Sec. 1. (a) This chapter does not apply to the
following:

(1) A:
​

(A) federal;
(B) state; or
(C) local;
​

law enforcement officer.
(2) A person who may legally possess a firearm and who has been
authorized by:
​

(A) a school board (as defined by IC 20-26-9-4); or
(B) the body that administers a charter school established
under IC 20-24;
​

to carry a firearm in or on school property.
(3) Except as provided in subsection (b) or (c), a person who:
​

(A) may legally possess a firearm; and
(B) possesses the firearm in a motor vehicle. [strike]that is being[/strike][strike]
operated by the person to transport another person to or from
a school or a school function.[/strike]
​

(4) A person who is a school resource officer, as defined in
IC 20-26-18.2-1.
(5) Except as provided in subsection (b) or (c), a person who:
​

(A) may legally possess a firearm; and
(B) possesses only a firearm that is:
​

(i) locked in the trunk of the person's motor vehicle;
(ii) kept in the glove compartment of the person's locked
motor vehicle; or
(iii) stored out of plain sight in the person's locked motor
vehicle.
​

(b) For purposes of subsection (a)(3) and (a)(5), a person does
not include a person who is:

(1) enrolled as a student in any high school except if the
person is a high school student and is a member of a shooting
sports team and the school's principal has approved the
person keeping a firearm concealed in the person's motor
vehicle on the days the person is competing or practicing as a
member of a shooting sports team; or
(2) a former student of the school if the person is no longer
enrolled in the school due to a disciplinary action within the
previous twenty-four (24) months.
​

(c) For purposes of subsection (a)(3) and (a)(5), a motor vehicle
does not include a motor vehicle owned, leased, or controlled by a
school or school district unless the person who possesses the
firearm is authorized by the school or school district to possess a
firearm.

SECTION 5. IC 35-47-9-2, AS AMENDED BY P.L.172-2013,
​

SECTION 13, AND AS AMENDED BY P.L.158-2013, SECTION
601, IS CORRECTED AND AMENDED TO READ AS FOLLOWS
[EFFECTIVE JULY 1, 2014]: Sec. 2. (a) A person may not be
charged with an offense under this subsection if the person may be
charged with an offense described in subsection (c). A person who
knowingly or intentionally possesses a firearm:

(1) in or on school property; or
[strike](2) in or on property that is being used by a school for a school[/strike][strike]
function; or
(3)[/strike] (2) on a school bus;
​

commits a [strike]Class D[/strike] Level 6 felony.
(b) It is a defense to a prosecution under subsection (a) that:

(1) the person is permitted to legally possess the firearm; and
(2) the firearm is:
​

(A) locked in the trunk of the person's motor vehicle;
(B) kept in the glove compartment of the person's locked
motor vehicle; or
(C) stored out of plain sight in the person's locked motor
vehicle.
​

(c) A person who is permitted to legally possess a firearm and
who knowingly, intentionally, or recklessly leaves the firearm in
plain view in a motor vehicle that is parked in a school parking lot
commits a Class A misdemeanor.

...
" (above is as quoted, save the addition of formatting text (mine) as in original)
Thanks for posting the relevant code, though. This is just what's passed and been signed, and is not yet in effect, but will be as of July 1, 2014.

Blessings,
Bill

Indy zoo is private, not city owned.

Indiana Code 35-47-9

IC 35-47-9-2 Version a
Possession of firearms on school property or on a school bus; felony
Note: This version of section amended by P.L.172-2013, SEC.13. See also following version of this section amended by P.L.158-2013, SEC.601, effective 7-1-2014.
Sec. 2. A person who possesses a firearm:
(1) in or on school property; or
(2) on a school bus;
commits a Class D felony.

However, after July 1

IC 35-47-9-2 Version b
Possession of firearms on school property, at school function, or on school bus; felony
Note: This version of section amended by P.L.158-2013, SEC.601, effective 7-1-2014. See also preceding version of this section
amended by P.L.172-2013, SEC.13.
Sec. 2. A person who knowingly or intentionally possesses a firearm:
(1) in or on school property;
(2) in or on property that is being used by a school for a school function; or
(3) on a school bus;
commits a Level 6 felony.

 

[Trigger Time]

The zoo is VERY anti-gun. Concealed means concealed!

 

[lovemachine]

Trying to understand IC gives me a headache.


So after July 1st, you can legally carry a gun to a school function, such as a zoo, as long as you drive yourself? Not riding on the school bus?

And you can legally have your gun on school property, kept out of sight in your locked car?

Or am I missing something?

 

[Trigger Time]

Trying to understand IC gives me a headache.


So after July 1st, you can legally carry a gun to a school function, such as a zoo, as long as you drive yourself? Not riding on the school bus?

And you can legally have your gun on school property, kept out of sight in your locked car?

Or am I missing something?

Yes you got it

because having it on the bus is a no go.
school function being defined as a field trip or similar. Can't carry to a football game ON school property.

 

[Mr. Habib]

Trying to understand IC gives me a headache.


So after July 1st, you can legally carry a gun to a school function, such as a zoo, as long as you drive yourself? Not riding on the school bus?

And you can legally have your gun on school property, kept out of sight in your locked car?

Or am I missing something?

Close. You can carry on a field trip now. The law was changed last July 1st. It would have reverted back to the original form if the state legislature hadn't made it permanent this past session. You're spot on about leaving it in your car. That doesn't take affect until this July 1st.

 

[Crbn79]

Make sure you CC, the Indy Zoo has a "No Weapons" policy and they will kick you out. I saw a guy a couple of years ago asked to leave because of this.

Yes you got it

because having it on the bus is a no go.
school function being defined as a field trip or similar. Can't carry to a football game ON school property.

What if your private vehicle is a School bus? lol