Carrying a bug out bag and multiple weapons

[buckfever90]

I have a bug out bag that has what I want and what i think I may need, but the problem I am running into is I can't feasibly carry the three weapons i need and the ammo. Does anyone have any good ideas or anything they have came up with?

 

[Armed & Christian]

Get a truck or resign yourself to bugging out with one longarm & one pistol

 

[03A3]

I don't know what to say except that you can only carry so much and you probably will have to decide which to take and what gets left behind. Hidden, but left behind.

 

[cwillour]

It seems to me you might want to consider pre-positioning supplies and probably change your planning some. Just like dressing for winter fieldwork, start thinking in layers and degrees of "bug-out" and look at what gets dropped and/or included at which point.

For example, when taking a vehicle you can carry notably more supplies than on foot, but you need to know what stays in the vehicle if you switch to foot travel for some reason.

Similarly, 3 guns is quite a load to carry w/ any quantity of ammo unless it is one rifle and a compatible pair of pistols (even that can add up to a fair amount of weight.)

If the load is too much for extended carry, the extra supplies / firearm / ammo is as likely to hurt you as help.

 

[chrstian_indy]

1. if ur pack has molle webbing, are some molle pouches
2. Get a tactical rig where you can carry extra ammo
3. what are your 3 weapons?

 

[IndyBeerman]

I have a bug out bag that has what I want and what i think I may need, but the problem I am running into is I can't feasibly carry the three weapons i need and the ammo. Does anyone have any good ideas or anything they have came up with?

You need to rethink your thought.

Why do you need 3 different weapons?

Think this over and let us know your thoughts.

 

[Kbundy5635]

Get a tank

 

[churchmouse]

I would want a sidearm, an M-4 and a shotty so help is needed. Are you a lone person or is there others involved in the BO plans.

 

[brutalone]

Vest full of all your mags....
Drop leg for you sidearm.....
Sling your M4....
Scabbard for your shotgun on the side of your pack....
.....and you should include a suppressed 22 handgun in your pack..... For discreet food acquisition...

 

[buckfever90]

in my plan im not alone, i was looking at bringing a ar-15, side arm and either a shotgun or a remington 700

 

[chrstian_indy]

My outfit would consist of

1 Rifle (with folding stock)
1 Glock (thigh holster)

1 Glock (leg holster)

1 Shotty

 

[DanO]

Every once in awhile I picture people "bugging out" on foot loaded down with all manner of supplies and weapons. Being picked off by the 16 year old kid with a Glenfield .22 for his wealth of stuff. "Hey, here comes another tortoise loaded with ammo and stuff!" "Ok, let's shoot him from the ditch and take his stuff!"

If you do not have any real life experience shooting and scooting (Infantry, spec ops, SWAT, professional big game hunter and guide) then take a tactical rifle course and see how it is carrying just that load while trying to move stealthily and maintain your SA and readiness. If you have ever even been on a backpacking trip in the mountains, which will be a lot less stressful than a bugout, you know how tired you can get and lose focus.

So take your vehicle and stuff to the place you already have stuff stashed, but your BOB should be a small pack with just enough to get there if you have to leave your vehicle and stuff behind. Light is right.

 

[hotfarmboy1]

Every once in awhile I picture people "bugging out" on foot loaded down with all manner of supplies and weapons. Being picked off by the 16 year old kid with a Glenfield .22 for his wealth of stuff. "Hey, here comes another tortoise loaded with ammo and stuff!" "Ok, let's shoot him from the ditch and take his stuff!"

If you do not have any real life experience shooting and scooting (Infantry, spec ops, SWAT, professional big game hunter and guide) then take a tactical rifle course and see how it is carrying just that load while trying to move stealthily and maintain your SA and readiness. If you have ever even been on a backpacking trip in the mountains, which will be a lot less stressful than a bugout, you know how tired you can get and lose focus.

So take your vehicle and stuff to the place you already have stuff stashed, but your BOB should be a small pack with just enough to get there if you have to leave your vehicle and stuff behind. Light is right.

DanO here has a very good point. I've done backpacking before. And it can be rough hauling everything you need for the time you are out just in a pack on your back. Unless you are in tip top shape you tire quickly. So the lighter you can pack the better.

This is why I've kept my AR lightweight and simple. Not adding a ton of accessories. Basic open sights, mil spec sling, A1 three prong flash hider, and a good light in a mount. I can use the sling to steady my shot as taught in Appleseed. Though if the target is further than 100 yards in a bugout situation I plan more on evading or concealing myself, especially if outmanned and outgunned. My current GHB has spare mags for my normal EDC, and a spare pistol 3 mags for it, along with other normal survival supplies. But when I took some long walks with it I realized so much extra ammo was a lot of weight to carry around. I downsized the amount of spare mags in the bag, and also found a way to carry spare mags for the AR in a separate way. Doing this made the bag much easier to carry.

To carry the weight alot of you are talking about its going to take a lot of training and being in top physical shape. I doubt that very many of you are even close to being in that good of shape. I know I'm not. Just try to take it easy, relax, and think with your heads without being macho. Then get out and test your gear with a long hike, try to get out in the woods if possible. You will see real quick how what you thought didn't weigh a lot, starts to feel like it weighs a ton real quick.

 

[03A3]

Well put DanO and hotfarmboy1.

 

[buckfever90]

I did many road marches and recon in the army and realize how much it sucks to carry all that weight. DanO you have a good point and i didnt even think about that for some reason. But hopefully i can avoid all of that by having a vehicle, if not i may need to rethink my plan a little.

 

[armedindy]

teach a friend to shoot

 

[flatlander]

Get a wheelbarrow

Or teach the friend how to carry a weapon.

Bob

 

[IndyBeerman]

chrstian_indy and others....

Do you really think things out, or is this a fly by the pants thing?

I'm asking this because the below example is not thinking ahead if you got to go on foot because of several things.

Weight
Ammo, you're looking at least 3 different kinds as long as the thigh and ankle rig use the same.
Space

If the situation is bad enough that you're rushing out the door with a BOG, simplicity is your friend and trying to carry 4 different weapons with the possibility of having to use 3 or 4 different brands of ammo along with carrying a 30 pound minimum bag is crazy.

Other than the essentials that I've determined I need in my bag for life support in the wild along with 5 days of MRE's, the only weapons other than my K-Bar and folder will be my Just Right 9mm carbine and my 9mm handgun.

My old Hi-Point 9mm could hit 16x10 steel at 150 yards, my new Just Right Carbine should do that just as good and will be able to share the same ammo with my handgun for close support and still hunt for game with the carbine.

I do not plan on carrying an arsenal, I want to be mobile enough to evade if needed.

Having 3-4 different weapons with different ammo will not allow me or the average Joe to do that.

Don't expect kids or wife's to carry it either, they will need to be carrying their own items necessary for them to survive.

My outfit would consist of

1 Rifle (with folding stock)
1 Glock (thigh holster)

1 Glock (leg holster)

1 Shotty

 

[churchmouse]

It would suck to leave the arsenal behind. That is the real headache hear. If I have to bug out and the vehicle is off line or disabled from whatever, I am sitting pat until the cavalry arrives.
Too old to run, to stiff to hump.

 

[PistolBob]

A lot of so called bug out specialists that I have personally met, couldn't carry 20 lbs of anything more than a quarter mile. Sometimes we need to spend some time thinking about staying put, instead of running for the hills. I'm just saying. Don't forget to involve your neighbors as you'll be needing all the help you can get, and so will they.