Carrying in a strip mall store. Could be a legal trap?

[RAMMAN2002]

So I was visiting a store inside a strip mall in Greenwood the other day. The owner of the store was talking to a customer about how he hated guns and the people who carried them. He stated that its a felony to carry a gun inside his store due to the had a sign posted. Now I know signs don't hold the weight of the law. However the law states where it define schools as a building or structure where.......yadayadayada. My question is, Is the whole strip mall considered a building or structure? Or just his store? Stay with me: What if there is a learning facility like Sylvia in the strip mall. Would you be breaking the law by walking in his store which is not a learning facility but down the strip mall there is a learning facility? Seems like a legal trap to me.

Here are the reference of the law.

IC 35-47-9-1, Sec. 1
IC 35-31.5-2-285

 

[ArcadiaGP]

So I was visiting a store inside a strip mall in Greenwood the other day. The owner of the store was talking to a customer about how he hated guns and the people who carried them. He stated that its a felony to carry a gun inside his store due to the had a sign posted. Now I know signs don't hold the weight of the law. However the law states where it define schools as a building or structure where.......yadayadayada. My question is, Is the whole strip mall considered a building or structure? Or just his store? Stay with me: What if there is a learning facility like Sylvia in the strip mall. Would you be breaking the law by walking in his store which is not a learning facility but down the strip mall there is a learning facility? Seems like a legal trap to me.

Here are the reference of the law.

IC 35-47-9-1, Sec. 1
IC 35-31.5-2-285

Sylvia learning centers aren't part of the K-12 "gun-free zones". It'd be closer to any college or private business that does education. Perfectly legal.

 

[RAMMAN2002]

Ok say its a daycare in the strip mall. For sake of argument say IPS School 1,000 is in the stripmall. Would it being the strip mall be defined as building.

 

[Mr. Habib]

Is his store a school as defined under Indiana law? If not, then he is full of it. The only way a strip mall could be a school would be if it was owned by a school corporation and thereby "school property under the law. A daycare in a strip mall does not make the entire mall a gun free zone, only the daycare itself.

 

[Tactically Fat]

I'd like to know which strip mall this is; for science.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Ok, I am confused.

Was this a school in a strip mall?

Which statute are we concerned with violating?

 

[Mr. Habib]

Bare with me, I'm trying to make sense of this as well. I think the OP was at a store in a strip mall where the owner of the store claimed through poorly worded signage that it was a felony to carry in his store due to there being some type of "learning center" in the mall. The store owner seems to believe that the "learning center" is a school and therefore the entire mall is somehow now school property. At least that's my take.

 

[RAMMAN2002]

Is his store a school as defined under Indiana law? If not, then he is full of it. The only way a strip mall could be a school would be if it was owned by a school corporation and thereby "school property under the law. A daycare in a strip mall does not make the entire mall a gun free zone, only the daycare itself.

This is what I wanted to know.

Since I have to frequent this store. I will still carry concealed, however I just won't buy anything in his store.

 

[RAMMAN2002]

Bare with me, I'm trying to make sense of this as well. I think the OP was at a store in a strip mall where the owner of the store claimed through poorly worded signage that it was a felony to carry in his store due to there being some type of "learning center" in the mall. The store owner seems to believe that the "learning center" is a school and therefore the entire mall is somehow now school property. At least that's my take.

This is exactly what he was hinting at! Which scares me cause I have to frequent this store but don't want to disarm unless I have to. Now if he find out I carry and ask me to leave thats another thing.

 

[Tactically Fat]

I'm a GW resident.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of any bona-fide schools that are inside strip malls in GW. Learning centers like Sylvan - sure. Even a licensed daycare/childcare - sure.

But those don't count unless you're IN those facilities. Going into CitiFinancial right next to Sylvan would be 100% legal. For that matter, going IN Sylvan, armed, would be 100% legal because it's not a prohibited place in the I.C.

Now, Building Bridges Learning Center off Madison MAY very well be licensed and verboten via the I.C. (most assuredly is since it's a for-profit childcare business); but the Domino's Pizza place on the west end of that same building is OK.

 

[Mr. Habib]

This is exactly what he was hinting at! Which scares me cause I have to frequent this store but don't want to disarm unless I have to. Now if he find out I carry and ask me to leave thats another thing.

Your only concern should be to ensure that you wipe off of the stupid when you leave his store.

If I had overheard that conversation, I would have been tempted to politely inform him that I was legally carrying and why I would not be conducting business with him as I walked out the door. Of course, me being one to never let an opportunity to **** off a hoplophobe go to waste, I would probably then proceed to open carry outside his store in the hopes that he would call some of Greenwood's finest so that I could watch them flog him thoroughly with his own stupidity.

 

[JettaKnight]

Bare with me,

I am not getting naked with you.

I'm trying to make sense of this as well. I think the OP was at a store in a strip mall where the owner of the store claimed through poorly worded signage that it was a felony to carry in his store due to there being some type of "learning center" in the mall. The store owner seems to believe that the "learning center" is a school and therefore the entire mall is somehow now school property. At least that's my take.

There's places where a post office is in a strip mall too.

In this case, (and the daycare/school) the GFZ stops at the door.

 

[Birds Away]

There's a school in a strip club?

 

[96firephoenix]

Here's a fun one... A USAFA/USN/USMC/USA recruiter's office is in a mall (not a strip mall). No way to access the Recruiting station except through the mall. Does the GFZ apply to the entire mall?

 

[Dosproduction]

Is his store a school as defined under Indiana law? If not, then he is full of it. The only way a strip mall could be a school would be if it was owned by a school corporation and thereby "school property under the law. A daycare in a strip mall does not make the entire mall a gun free zone, only the daycare itself.

Wait all it has to be is owned by a school corporation? The building I work in is owned by a school pension. Does that count. And also is there something that prevents school corporations from owning regular buildings? The building im in is a office building with no school anything except owned by the orginazation.

 

[dprimm]

Does a school own the children's museum?

 

[Joniki]

There's a school in a strip club?

Where do strippers learn their trade?

From the school of hard knockers.....

 

[2A_Tom]

Another plinker another hypothetical.

 

[ModernGunner]

OR...

Maybe the store owner is just another libtard moron.

 

[PGRChaplain]

Why do you have to "frequent" the store??????? I wouldn't spend a Nickle there! Please inform us of the business so we don't waste any $$$ there.