Carrying in Hospitals in Indiana?

[gregr]

Legal to carry in hospitals in Indiana? Yay or Nay?

 

[w_ADAM_d88]

Yes! All except the VA Hospital, since it's federally regulated and federal property. Maybe against the policies of all others but not illegal.

 

[mom45]

Most have signs posted but that doesn't make it illegal. If they see your firearm and ask you to leave, you need to do so or at least take your firearm to your vehicle.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

It depends. Can you name the hospital?

 

[eldirector]

Most likely, yes.

Not the VA, as mentioned (Federal). Not Escanazie (or however you spell it), as it has a "secure ward".

County/City hospitals may not make their own firearms rules (State Preemption). Private / Non-profit hospitals may have rules, just like any other business (IU Health, St. Vincent).

 

[Joniki]

And some hospitals have daycare or lockups in them which makes them a no go...

 

[gregr]

It depends. Can you name the hospital?

Grrrrr. Eldirector addressed it below. It`s Eskenazi. So, because it`s there...I shouldn`t even conceal and just leave if discovered, right? I don`t want to be disarmed, but I certainly don`t want trouble.
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[Kirk Freeman]

Grrrrr. Eldirector addressed it below. It`s Eskenazi. So, because it`s there...I shouldn`t even conceal and just leave if discovered, right? I don`t want to be disarmed, but I certainly don`t want trouble.

If they ask you to leave, leave. If there are signs, I wouldn't gamble on not being arrested for CT.

Teeth talk on the Internet makes little impression in court.

 

[Tactically Fat]

VA hospitals and Eskanazi are about the only ones that are statutorily verboten in Indiana.

VA due to Federal facilities and the other due to the secure wing.

State Mental hospitals may also be verboten due to therefore nature but I'm not sure.

I personally don't know of any other "regular" hospitals in IN with secure zones like Eskanazi has.

All the rest will probably just have signage disallowing.

The ER at Methodist does have metal detectors and armed security for the public street-side entrance.

 

[in625shooter]

If they ask you to leave, leave. If there are signs, I wouldn't gamble on not being arrested for CT.

Teeth talk on the Internet makes little impression in court.

I will ad several could have designated wards for you in mates receiving care and or day care facilities. Union in Terre Haute has a ward with Federal Inmates. So they will ask you to leave.....once

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

FWIW, the hospitals down here in bedford all have the "No Guns" signs up. But we had to go to the hospital in Paoli the other day and surprisingly, they didn't and they're an IU Health facility.

 

[numbaonecoltsfan]

Eskenazi actually even has metal detectors. Had to go back to the car for my pocket knife.
Also met either a trooper or a sheriff can't remember now who was carrying an amazing special edition Sig. Stopped and talked about it. Super nice guy. Said he wouldn't have bought it if not for the special police discount.

 

[inccwchris]

Eskanazi is a facility that houses inmates for medical treatment, as is Community South and Community North. If there are special deputies roaming the grounds, not security guards its a fair bet that the hospital is used as an emergency treatment center for DOC. Therefore it would lawfully be off limits for normal folks like us.

 

[Excalibur]

What about Community Hospital in Munster?

 

[HoughMade]

This chapter may not be construed to prevent any of the following:…

(7) The enactment or enforcement of a provision prohibiting or restricting the possession of a firearm in a public hospital corporation that contains a secure correctional health unit that is staffed by a law enforcement officer twenty-four (24) hours a day….

(11) The enactment or enforcement of a provision prohibiting or restricting the possession of a firearm in a hospital established and operated under IC 16-22-2 or IC 16-23.

Ind. Code Ann. § 35-47-11.1-4

Everyone seems to for get about paragraph 11 which applies to county and municipal hospitals. These hospitals may​ restrict or prohibit the possession of firearms. Preemption does not apply to them.

 

[KittySlayer]

Everyone seems to for get about paragraph 11 which applies to county and municipal hospitals. These hospitals may​ restrict or prohibit the possession of firearms. Preemption does not apply to them.

Lutheran Hospital - Fort Wayne

Went for a blood test this month. The doors have clear signage that Guns and Knives are prohibited. During check in there are about twenty questions you go through with the clerk and then electronically sign at the end of answering. They clearly ask that you are aware that guns are not permitted. It seemed like she asked twice. So by answering that I was aware of the rule in addition to the signage are they setting me up for a trespassing prosecution?

Interestingly as I sat in the lab area waiting room a couple security guards were quite stressed because some sketchy person from ER had wandered into a secure area. Glad that I was concealed carrying in addition to the being under the watchful eyes of Barney Fife.

 

[HoughMade]

Lutheran Hospital - Fort Wayne

Went for a blood test this month. The doors have clear signage that Guns and Knives are prohibited. During check in there are about twenty questions you go through with the clerk and then electronically sign at the end of answering. They clearly ask that you are aware that guns are not permitted. It seemed like she asked twice. So by answering that I was aware of the rule in addition to the signage are they setting me up for a trespassing prosecution?

Interestingly as I sat in the lab area waiting room a couple security guards were quite stressed because some sketchy person from ER had wandered into a secure area. Glad that I was concealed carrying in addition to the being under the watchful eyes of Barney Fife.

I would look at it more as "making sure you are aware" than "setting you up", but sure, knowing they are prohibited is a step in the trespassing direction, though probably neither necessary, nor sufficient...probably.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Everyone seems to for get about paragraph 11 which applies to county and municipal hospitals. These hospitals may​ restrict or prohibit the possession of firearms. Preemption does not apply to them.

You're right. I had forgotten about that paragraph. I'm thinking those facilities ran by IU Health and St. Francis (like those in Bedford and Paoli) would not be eligible for that to apply to them since they're not county or municipal hospitals---right?

 

[HoughMade]

You're right. I had forgotten about that paragraph. I'm thinking those facilities ran by IU Health and St. Francis (like those in Bedford and Paoli) would not be eligible for that to apply to them since they're not county or municipal hospitals---right?

Private hospitals could always make their own rules.

 

[eldirector]

Even if paragraph 11 applies, are the rules any different than any other "no guns" sign? Meaning, it is at worst a trespass issue?