Chaos in Egypt

[Expat]

It has been awhile, but as I recall Iran was considered a moderate country before their revolution.

 

[mrjarrell]

It has been awhile, but as I recall Iran was considered a moderate country before their revolution.

They were a police state dictatorship before the revolution. They still are, just run by a different group of thugs. Now it's the Revolutionary Guards, back then it was the Savak. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[Expat]

They were a police state dictatorship before the revolution. They still are, just run by a different group of thugs. Now it's the Revolutionary Guards, back then it was the Savak. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

But that is what you say Egypt has been, a dictatorship. Both countries were considered religiously moderate before their revolution. Thus the concern for the current difficulties. We see an Islamofascist has hit the ground in Tunisia to attempt to take control. It has been friendly to the West up to now like Egypt. This is all going to have to play itself out. No one can predict at this point what will happen.

 

[E5RANGER375]

Shame.

I would have liked to have seen Egypt first hand in my lifetime.

Guess I'll just have to settle for the Tut exhibit when it comes through Chicago again.

you didnt miss much. they have everything so blocked off you really dont see anything.

 

[Expat]

A real shame that some idiots were trying to loot and vandalize the museums.

 

[Disposable Heart]

But that is what you say Egypt has been, a dictatorship. Both countries were considered religiously moderate before their revolution. Thus the concern for the current difficulties. We see an Islamofascist has hit the ground in Tunisia to attempt to take control. It has been friendly to the West up to now like Egypt. This is all going to have to play itself out. No one can predict at this point what will happen.

This is the most intelligent thing I have seen in this thread so far: We don't know what is going to happen. The Iranian situation is FAR different than the Egyptian thing. Iran was intolerant of Christians in general, Egypt accepts them willingly. Heck, after the few that were killed in Egypt, as stated earlier, the nation (not government) demanded response to this action. BUT, that is not to say tides will change in Egypt, but to call them an Islamofacist nation is premature.

The US government is bummed about this for two reasons:
1. Suez. Granted, we will get our oil from somewhere else, but the fact remains that it will impact fuel prices if the .gov in Egypt faces military coup (which I had thought would have happened Friday, but didn't ) and they restrict oil going through the canal to get global attention and handouts.
2. Our diminishing strangle hold (or lack thereof) on the Middle East: Egypt was an important ally in our grudge against Islamofacism/Political fundamentalism spreading through the Middle East. When the Shah was in Iran, we had the equivalent to a Ranger chokehold in the region, politically and economically. But as the populace who were ruled by our "inserts" began to dislike being tortured for speaking out against totalitarianism, other figures, mostly religious in nature filled the gap left by revolt and revolution. We are losing what we see as "important" political puppets in the region.

I think in another 10 years, we will be taught a lesson about dabbling in the political affairs of nations, particularly ones where we back totalitarians or thugs. 9/11 taught us that religion is being used as a brainwashing tool for those we screwed over after the Cold War (by not funding them anymore or supporting their causes after we got what we want from them), but something soon in the future, probably oil enforced, will teach us the value of backing torturers and facists... Charlie Wilson would be pointing at the past and yelling "I told you so..."