cheaper than dirt

[IndianaJack]

Palmetto Armory - Florida

 

[Scutter01]

CTD is a joke.

i can't understand why I see their advertising on INGO space. Does INGO condone the kind of gouging that CTD uses on its customers? Why would one of the most reputable shooting forums on the net want to tarnish its rep with scum gouging advertisers like CTD? Unless of course, they are like minded?

INGO has no control over that? Are you kidding me? I call bs!

Pure malarky!! What kind of answer is that? So because they make some kind of money they (INGO) decided not to have control or to relinquish control? What is it? Sounds like a lazy, lame excuse to me.

Also, it sounds like money trumps, so I was basically right..........like minded.

Ok, fair is fair.

it was pointed out to me that that particular banner might get charged per "click".

I want to know if that is true and if that's the case, I'm good with it. Yes I want INGO to make some cash. But, personally, if I owned INGO, I wouldn't take a dime from those butt clowns at CTD.

So, someone in the know let us know.............

does CTD get charged per click on their banner? How does it work?

I'm going to quote to you what I said the last time someone ranted about how INGO is all about "making fat cash, y'all!"

Frankly, I'm not really sure how it's any of your business how INGO runs its books and I find your accusatory tone extremely offensive, but here it is:

The ads are for "guns and gun related items", which is why you don't see toothpaste and porn ads. The specific ads are chosen by the ad agency according to the agency's contracts with the companies who advertise through them. Fenway has a contract with the agency to serve the agency's ads and has some say as to whether or not specific ads can be shown, but he is also bound by contractual obligations with the agency. His contract also requires him to actually display the ads, meaning he can't just remove the entire ad space at-will. I do happen to know the exact process that INGO uses due to my past involvement with it, but I can tell you that pretty much any website operates similarly. Website owners rarely serve their own ads but usually sell the space to an agency to manage.

That said, there is no reason whatsoever for him to ask to have the Alamo Ammo ad removed. INGO LLC. is not in the business of policing the prices of its advertisers. That would be a ridiculous and pointless amount of work. We don't do it in the classifieds, we don't do it to our advertising supporters, and we don't do it to the advertising agencies. The only way an ad would get removed is if it's serving up something malicious (like spyware), illegal, or off-topic for INGO's focus.

To put it in perspective, let's say you (as the owner of INGO, LLC.) had to make the decision to pull an ad based on the price. What is the absolute highest price that your advertiser should be allowed to charge for, say, .22LR? 5% over cost? 10%? 100%? How do you know what their overhead is? How much profit should you allow them to make on a given sale? Or do you just leave the ad until someone complains that the price of one item is too high? As the website owner, who are you to dictate their P&L sheet and tell them what prices they can set?

As a consumer, you have the choice to buy or not buy as you see fit and that's where the power should lie. If you want to complain about an advertiser's price, that's your prerogative and you're even welcome to do it here on INGO, but as soon as you start saying things like "INGO is OK with them running that ad on here??", then you've kind of stepped over a line a bit.

 

[Rookie]

Does INGO get more money if you actually click the adds?

 

[ryan3030]

Does INGO get more money if you actually click the adds?

Depends on the advertising program, but most of the time, yes. Though there are mechanisms in place to keep you from gaming the system.

 

[paulh]

Yep, bought my 1911 from them on a Tuesday had my gun Thursday afternoon. free shipping!!

 

[Scutter01]

Does INGO get more money if you actually click the adds?

I haven't been involved in the agency contract since I stopped being a mod, but at the time there was a negligible click-through fee. More money was made by just displaying the ad than was earned from residuals, but it was earned through the ad agency contract, not from CTD directly.

I'm no fan of CTD myself and they'll never see my money, but I worry about the day that INGO starts dictating what advertisers can charge for their wares. In the meantime, I guess we'll just have to accept being accused of greed and collusion.

 

[Fourtrax]

I'm going to quote to you what I said the last time someone ranted about how INGO is all about "making fat cash, y'all!"

Frankly, I'm not really sure how it's any of your business how INGO runs its books and I find your accusatory tone extremely offensive, but here it is:

Frankly, I'm not really sure how it wouldn't be my business, as Edmund Burke said, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do Nothing".

I find the CTD gouging to be evil, I am letting all know.

That you find my "accusatory tone extremely offensive" tells me all I need to know about this forum and their/your priorities.

 

[Scutter01]

Frankly, I'm not really sure how it wouldn't be my business

Because this forum is presented for free and you have no vested interested in it, but you're happy to make all sorts of unfounded accusations about the owner's motives.

That you find my "accusatory tone extremely offensive" tells me all I need to know about this forum and their/your priorities.

*shrug* Can't help you there. You made up your mind well before I said anything. Haters gonna hate.

 

[Fourtrax]

Because this forum is presented for free and you have no vested interested in it, but you're happy to make all sorts of unfounded accusations about the owner's motives.



*shrug* Can't help you there. You made up your mind well before I said anything. Haters gonna hate.

Yep you got me, I'm a hater.

Man, you figured out my motives. The whole Edmund Burke thing, moral indignity, right and wrong, the golden rule, these things elude you? Just easier to label me a hater, instead of maybe dealing with some of these things that might force us to do a little self examination?

I'd suggest repeating the Edmund Burke quote, over and over and over and.............

My true motives should start to click after a bit.

Good luck.

 

[hornadylnl]

Think I'll go buy something from CTD now.

 

[hornadylnl]

Yep you got me, I'm a hater.

Man, you figured out my motives. The whole Edmund Burke thing, moral indignity, right and wrong, the golden rule, these things elude you? Just easier to label me a hater, instead of maybe dealing with some of these things that might force us to do a little self examination?

I'd suggest repeating the Edmund Burke quote, over and over and over and.............

My true motives should start to click after a bit.

Good luck.

How would I ever survive the market place without you to hold my hand?

 

[Fourtrax]

Think I'll go buy something from CTD now.

I dont care care who you are, that right there is funny!

 

[chezuki]

Yep you got me, I'm a hater.

Man, you figured out my motives. The whole Edmund Burke thing, moral indignity, right and wrong, the golden rule, these things elude you? Just easier to label me a hater, instead of maybe dealing with some of these things that might force us to do a little self examination?

I'd suggest repeating the Edmund Burke quote, over and over and over and.............

My true motives should start to click after a bit.

Good luck.

Meh.

 

[littletommy]

I bought a Key Lime pie at Krogers today.

 

[chezuki]

 

[richardraw316]

Damn that looks good.

 

[Fourtrax]

That does look good

 

[KG1]

I bought a key lime pie at CTD today. Free shipping.

 

[chezuki]

I bought a key lime pie at CTD today. Free shipping.

I ordered my key lime pie from Botach Tactical. It showed "in-stock", but now it's back ordered with no estimated availability date... and they already charged my credit card.

 

[Crbn79]

I don't know if I should like you cuz that looks delicious, or hate you because I don't have one! I'm going to go with the "Pie in Hand is better than one on computer screen" Doctrine!