Clara Lane Walmart, wouldn't sell me ammo because I wouldn't show pink card.

[WarrenCountyBuck]

How does your method of carry play into this ignorant manager seahag's self righteous agenda and her need to assert her authority? The OP was well within his rights, did nothing and remained calm (according to the story).

Thanks for turning this thread into another chapter of OC vs CC

I'm not trying turn this thread into anything. I guess my preference on my carry method in that business, after hearing similar Walmart stories has no value to my post. Neither does yours.

 

[SteveM4A1]

The manager ( anyone selling ammo ) has the legal right to ask to see ID for age. The situation isn't about being lawful. It's about seeing his side arm and wanting to assert her "authority". If she REALLY thought he was a threat, would she approach him? I would hope she would move employees and customers to safety while waiting on law enforcement.
If he was shooting people she would probably be praying that someone ( law abiding citizen with side arm ) like in this case, would put the evil doer down. I agree she has the right to ask anyone to leave her store, and I support her right to make those choices. In this case, she made the wrong decision and needs more training. For the record, I purchased 100 rounds of 45acp at Walmart last night. Sig on my belt, UNDER my shirt. I have friends that like to open carry, my personal preference is to not show the potential bad guy what I have.

 

[Indynic]

I believe they have a file system in place

Yeah, you are probably right, but at least I wouldn't be wasting any breath.

 

[WarrenCountyBuck]

That's what I'm feeling... Either I didn't explain my opinion well enough or some people feel like the manager made a good choice. I think the manager was out of line and the guy did the right thing. I would have told her to pack sand.

 

[24Carat]

Old Sam trained his minions well, didn't he ?

"Old Sam" and his level of integrity and character is in no way reflected in the quality of training and business model that is Walmart today.

When the Jasper Walmart had their Grand Opening, he flew into the Huntingburg Airport in a ratty looking 1962 Piper Apache dressed in bluejeans, a flannel shirt and sporting a 3 day growth of beard.

He borrowed a courtesy car and drove over to Jasper where he stood in the back of the crowd to watch the dog and pony show.

Upon his return to the airport he paid for his fuel, gave me a crisp $100.00 bill and a handshake and launched off for parts unknown.

 

[SteveM4A1]

That's what I'm feeling... Either I didn't explain my opinion well enough or some people feel like the manager made a good choice. I think the manager was out of line and the guy did the right thing. I would have told her to pack sand.

Actually I was referring to the last sentence in your post.

 

[Indynic]

And again..., he doesn't get it.

 

[Leadeye]

Stories like these make me glad I make all my ammo.

 

[1775usmarine]

Correctamundo, that's why when the ask it's always for a rifle. Less hassle.

Unless they are also against scary black guns that shoot 30 mag clip per sec.

 

[chezuki]

Don't need ID for 7.62, or any rifle ammo. At least that's what I thought.

Correctamundo, that's why when the ask it's always for a rifle. Less hassle.

You still have to be 18 to purchase rifle ammo. You have to be 21 to purchase pistol ammo.

 

[LANShark42]

lol these Walmart stories crack me up. I think I work at one of the more sane Walmarts in America. Now let me ask this. You would be willing to show your ID to purchase ammo, witch has your address on it, but not show your LTCH to assure the manager of the store at the time that you were legally allowed to carry? It seems to me that you were just annoyed with the manager and wanted to go rounds with her, or vice a versa. Being a gun owner and a minion of Sam Walton, I can relate to both sides of the story. You have no idea what the manager probably had to deal with in that 5 hours before you walked through the door. Oh retail, its a stressful job.

Can dead guys have minions? I mean, is that even legal??

 

[actaeon277]

You still have to be 18 to purchase rifle ammo. You have to be 21 to purchase pistol ammo.

Well, good thing I'm no where near those ages.

 

[looney2ns]

Op, you wasted a lot of good air and time for naught. Arguing with Walmart droids won't go anywhere. Especially the night shifters. They don't care about your complaint either. They are the prime example of the wrong way to provide customer service.

 

[WarrenCountyBuck]

And again..., he doesn't get it.

Your right, I don't get it. Feel free to explain your position and lets debate it. We can move to another thread if you would like.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Your right, I don't get it. Feel free to explain your position and lets debate it. We can move to another thread if you would like.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/carry-issues-self-defense/71996-open-carry-argument.html

 

[hopper68]

I've bought ammo there before without issue and several other Wal-Marts with no problem. I open-carry a LC9 in a DeSantis belt holster. I wanted 3 boxes of Tula 7.62 and the girl they sent back said she didn't know the rules or laws for selling ammo and waited for another person. He came back and she told him she didn't know the rules and he went to explain it and she interrupted him saying she didn't care to know and wanted to go smoke. Anyway, he gets the boxes and takes them up front (it was midnight and they only had two lanes open). I put the other stuff I want to buy on the counter and she doesn't ring me up. They (the cashier and the guy that brought the ammo up) just stood there like they were waiting for God to instruct them on what to do next. Well, 'God' showed up but her name is Loretta and she is the assistant manager. She says I can't have a gun in here unless I'm a cop. She asked if I'm a cop, I said no. I told her Wal-Mart policy is to follow local laws and that I had a permit so I didn't need to be a cop. She then asked if she could see the permit, I said no. She asked why and I told her that if I went around showing that to everyone that asked that I would have to put it on a necklace. I then explained that I didn't feel comfortable showing her the permit because it had my home address on it and I didn't want just anyone knowing that. Then she went on a rant about how she has to protect all the unarmed people in the store and had to know if I was licensed. I explained that if she would show me her driver's license, I would show her my permit. She gave me a blank stare so I took that as a no. I told her I no more wanted her to know my address then she wanted me to know hers. Again she rants about how she has a duty to protect the people in the store. I explain to her that permit or not, if I intended to harm anyone, it wouldn't matter if she seen the permit. I don't think she understood that. She then told me that I should look at it from her point-of-view. What was she to think about someone carrying a gun and buying ammo. I told her that the gun was loaded and the ammo I was buying won't fit my gun and that if I wanted the ammo to cause harm that I would have simply broken the glass and taken it. So, now we are talking in circles and she says that if I won't show her the permit, she won't let me buy the ammo. So I said never-mind, I won't buy anything. I left the store. I should add that the ignorant smoker that came back first was waiting up there and watched the whole time. I don't think she wanted to smoke, I think she just ran to 'tell' on me for having a gun.

I called customer care and explained what happened. The CC rep told me the policy allowed for them to remove people that were 'not behaving' so that no one would be concerned and allowed for managers to remove people from the store that were 'offending' others by having the gun on display. I asked if it would be reasonable to 'remove' a gay couple that was holding hands just because someone took offense to it. Of course she said no. So I explained to her that it wasn't really any different that I was singled out like that. We talked a bit more and she was surprised to learn that the only reason she wouldn't sell me the ammo is because I wouldn't show my permit. She didn't seem to understand that was the only reason until I said, "If she had asked for my ID to confirm my age since ammo is age-restricted, I would have shown it to her." I explained that it seemed like Loretta had an agenda, perhaps she is anti-gun, and used her authority to prevent me from buying ammo and the question of my age never came up, which is the only restriction that should have been in question.

I don't understand why these people just don't get it. If someone has ill-intent, that ill-intent will exist rather or not you know that person legally possesses a gun. I pointed out to the CC rep that if Loretta had thought me to be a threat, that she wouldn't have confronted me and would instead call the police so that tells me she had an agenda. Maybe Loretta thinks that if she found I had the gun illegally, that I would be shamed into not killing everyone that seen me. The CC rep is putting a complaint in at the store so we'll see what comes of it.

Something is not right here. Every WalMart I have been in has a no ammo (or gun) sales between 10 pm and 7 am. Never seen anyone manning the counter during those hours. If they really wanted to deny the OP ammo they just would have cited store policy.

 

[chezuki]

Something is not right here. Every WalMart I have been in has a no ammo (or gun) sales between 10 pm and 7 am. Never seen anyone manning the counter during those hours. If they really wanted to deny the OP ammo they just would have cited store policy.

That was my initial thought as well. I don't know if it is a corporate policy, but I have NEVER seen a walmart that would open the ammo case after 10pm.

 

[halfmileharry]

Just one reason on the list of numerous reasons I don't and won't shop WalMart for ANYTHING.
What? Someone needed to say it.

 

[LANShark42]

Something is not right here. Every WalMart I have been in has a no ammo (or gun) sales between 10 pm and 7 am. Never seen anyone manning the counter during those hours. If they really wanted to deny the OP ammo they just would have cited store policy.

That was my initial thought as well. I don't know if it is a corporate policy, but I have NEVER seen a walmart that would open the ammo case after 10pm.

I've bought ammo from both the Newburgh and Boonville Walmarts after 10....

 

[Bunnykid68]

I've bought ammo from both the Newburgh and Boonville Walmarts after 10....

That's cause they are little podunk towns