CNN wrong once again – birth record not destroyed

[rambone]

This will not get resolved to our liking no matter what he shows us. Don't forget he has the best counterfeiters in the country at his disposal. His credibility will never be good with guys like us. And it doesn't matter. He will not get unseated, not from this. He has a vast majority in the Senate and House. There is no winning with this.

What is your best case scenario? Impeachment? Only to install Joe Biden? Or Nancy Pelosi? We need to unseat all of these people through the voting process.

O has so many other weaknesses to exploit. We need to show them to the American public, and make sure 2012 is not a repeat of 2008. Our side needs to show that we are the better side. We need to take back the congress in 2010.


We'd be better off trying to teach people what socialism is, and convincing them that Obama is breaking up our way of life, than convincing them of this. Socialists come and socialists go. We need to teach Americans why socialism is evil so they will be better suited for a lifetime worth of voting decisions.

 

[calcot7]

Carbon -14 dating of the document possibly?

 

[Whiskey Lake]

One thing to remember, folks...we (the American people) put him there. If you don't like it, maybe you should work as hard as his people did putting him in, to get him out. I realize this does not apply to all here, but I am sick and tired of people complaining because they don't like the president who was elected while they sat in their basements watching the proceedings on their bigscreen, drinking a beer and picking chips out of their bellies. Get off your couches and hit the streets. Start campaining now....for a new president, a new congress, a new senate...whatever you want. But start FIGHTING (metaphorically speaking) for your causes!

 

[calcot7]

Good post. I think that says it all.

 

[theweakerbrother]

I'm not sure I would believe any document shown now. They've had more than enough time to make a pretty convincing forgery of what a Birth Certificate should look like for Barry.

 

[barrelmaker_2002]

Great, here we go again.....

A long form birth certificate is not required to prove citizenship and some states will not even give you a copy of it.

For example, when I got my passport, PA only provided me with a copy of the short form certificate and did not give me the option of getting the long form. The State Department accepted the short form and issued my passport.

There is no credible evidence that Pres. Obama is not a natural born citizen of the US and any debate to the contrary is a stupid, pointless waste of time.

 

[tyler34]

this MAY explain it if this is true, it seems to be backed up by the commenters. take it how you want to I really have no feelings about it.

Did you know? Obama’s half sister, born in Indonesia, has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth

 

[ron]

:-)

 

[eatsnopaste]

One thing to remember, folks...we (the American people) put him there. If you don't like it, maybe you should work as hard as his people did putting him in, to get him out. I realize this does not apply to all here, but I am sick and tired of people complaining because they don't like the president who was elected while they sat in their basements watching the proceedings on their bigscreen, drinking a beer and picking chips out of their bellies. Get off your couches and hit the streets. Start campaining now....for a new president, a new congress, a new senate...whatever you want. But start FIGHTING (metaphorically speaking) for your causes!

Nope, gonna sit here on the interweb and give everyone the truth as I see it...it's a lot easier than actually doing something and I don't really have to think.

 

[mdroz3]

Great, here we go again.....

A long form birth certificate is not required to prove citizenship and some states will not even give you a copy of it.

For example, when I got my passport, PA only provided me with a copy of the short form certificate and did not give me the option of getting the long form. The State Department accepted the short form and issued my passport.

There is no credible evidence that Pres. Obama is not a natural born citizen of the US and any debate to the contrary is a stupid, pointless waste of time.

The Hawaii certificate of live birth in Not proof of citizenship. Hawaii DOES NOT recognize it for official use. You must provide the long form. You can not even get a state ID with the Live birth certificate.

 

[barrelmaker_2002]

The Hawaii certificate of live birth in Not proof of citizenship. Hawaii DOES NOT recognize it for official use. You must provide the long form. You can not even get a state ID with the Live birth certificate.

Not true. Not true. Not true. Not true.

The State Dept. determines which documents it will accept as proof of citizenship to issue a passport and they accept short-form birth records.

Hawaii only requires a "State Certified Birth Certificate with both parents listed or State Certified Birth ID Card" to get a driver's license. The Birth ID Card they issue has even less information on than the long form.
(refer to: Driver License Requirements, Official Web Site for The City and County of Honolulu, specifically section c. item 7)

This link contains the reqs. for getting a Hawaii state ID: http://hawaii.gov/ag/hcjdc/main/application_forms/stidfillapp0709.pdf

It say nothing about a long form.

Finally, the phrase long form appears exactly once in Hawaii's statutes. And that is in a law about which financial disclosure statements shall be considered public records.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/site1/hrs/searchhrs.asp?query="long+form"&currpage=1

There is simply no evidence that the President was NOT born in the US.

 

[redneckjoe]

i don't think we will ever know the truth in tell it is to late