Concealed Weapons (other than handguns)?

[mattfoley]

I saw a few comments in another thread regarding other types of concealed weapons and I thought this might be worth talking about.

I am not talking about handguns. LTCH handles concealed/open carry.

What about knives, batons, etc that are concealed? Rifles/shotguns (despite the difficulty in concealment)? Is that legal in Indiana?

I looked but could not find code prohibiting it.

 

[singlestacksig]

state law only mentions automatic blades & throwing stars....

 

[Bill of Rights]

I saw a few comments in another thread regarding other types of concealed weapons and I thought this might be worth talking about.

I am not talking about handguns. LTCH handles concealed/open carry.

What about knives, batons, etc that are concealed? Rifles/shotguns (despite the difficulty in concealment)? Is that legal in Indiana?

I looked but could not find code prohibiting it.

Ensure that your rifles, if short-barrelled, and your AOWs that fire shotgun shells (like the Serbu Super Shorty) are ATF-registered, and you're OK.

Batons are not restricted, I don't think, and you already got an answer re: knives. Note that "ballistic knives" are also prohibited.

I'm not sure about others and I'm lazy at the moment and don't feel like looking it up.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[mattfoley]

whats a ballistic knife? a bayonet? boot knife?

 

[kingnereli]

whats a ballistic knife? a bayonet? boot knife?

A knife in which the blade can be propelled.

 

[Bill of Rights]

whats a ballistic knife? a bayonet? boot knife?

It means you press a button or something and it propels the blade at your target.

 

[Scutter01]

whats a ballistic knife? a bayonet? boot knife?

A ballistic knife is one with a detachable blade that can be ejected by means of a spring or gas-powered mechanism. It's sometimes also used to refer to a switchblade.

 

[paddling_man]

We've actually got it pretty good in Indiana, with no specific length restrictions except on a local level (I think Speedway??) Only throwing stars and automatics are illegal on a State basis.




US Knife Law Summary

* Ballistic knives (automatic blade throwers) are prohibited.
* Switchblades may not be transported/mailed across state lines unless the recipient intends to use it for military use.
* Possessing a knife in a federal facility is prohibited unless it is a pocket knife with blade under 2.5".






Indiana

IC 35-47-5-2
Knife with blade that opens automatically or may be propelled
Sec. 2. It is a Class B misdemeanor for a person to manufacture, possess, display, offer, sell, lend, give away, or purchase any knife with a blade that:
(1) opens automatically; or
(2) may be propelled;
by hand pressure applied to a button, device containing gas, spring, or other device in the handle of the knife.
As added by P.L.311-1983, SEC.32. Amended by P.L.70-2000, SEC.2.

IC 35-47-5-12
"Chinese throwing star" defined; related offenses
Sec. 12. (a) A person who:
(1) manufactures;
(2) causes to be manufactured;
(3) imports into Indiana;
(4) keeps for sale;
(5) offers or exposes for sale; or
(6) gives, lends, or possesses;
a Chinese throwing star commits a Class C misdemeanor.
(b) As used in this section, "Chinese throwing star" means a throwing-knife, throwing-iron, or other knife-like weapon with blades set at different angles.
As added by P.L.318-1985, SEC.2.

Interesting...

IC 35-47-5-13
Unlawful use of body armor
Sec. 13. (a) As used in this section, "body armor" means bullet resistant metal or other material worn by a person to provide protection from weapons or bodily injury.

 

[cce1302]

Yeah, I saw that other thread too, and looked in the Indiana code, but couldn't find anything other than what's already been posted here.

On the topic of ballistic knives, did you see the "deadliest warrior" episode with the green berets and Spetsnaz? It was lame because they said the spetsnaz would have won, but the spetsnaz had a pretty cool ballistic knife.
But the Green Berets would have definitely wasted the spetsnaz.

 

[Scutter01]

Interesting...

IC 35-47-5-13
Unlawful use of body armor
Sec. 13. (a) As used in this section, "body armor" means bullet resistant metal or other material worn by a person to provide protection from weapons or bodily injury.

You cut off the operative part of that statute:

(b) A person who knowingly or intentionally uses body armor while committing a felony commits unlawful use of body armor, a Class D felony.

It's not saying you can't have or wear body armor, just that you can't while committing a felony.

 

[Crimson]

What if you are Law Enforecement and somehow commit a felony, example of beating a suspect up, and you are wearing body armor? I know it sounds far fetched. But what are the ramifications of it, does he then commit two felonies?

 

[kingnereli]

Yeah, I saw that other thread too, and looked in the Indiana code, but couldn't find anything other than what's already been posted here.

On the topic of ballistic knives, did you see the "deadliest warrior" episode with the green berets and Spetsnaz? It was lame because they said the spetsnaz would have won, but the spetsnaz had a pretty cool ballistic knife.
But the Green Berets would have definitely wasted the spetsnaz.

I'd take the E-tool any day. I wonder if I could conceal one of those down my pants.

 

[paddling_man]

You cut off the operative part of that statute:
It's not saying you can't have or wear body armor, just that you can't while committing a felony.

Oops! mea culpa! Can I have bacon while committing a felony?

I'd take the E-tool any day. I wonder if I could conceal one of those down my pants.

While I feel that Cold Steel are a talentless bunch of hacks who manufacture nothing other than a marketing film, this is cool!

Review : Cold Steel Special Forces shovel

Maybe you could conceal it...

 

[Lucas156]

Does anyone on here carry a knife or any weapon other than a gun? I have thought about doing it before but not sure..

 

[kingnereli]

Does anyone on here carry a knife or any weapon other than a gun? I have thought about doing it before but not sure..

I carry OC spray. I am looking into a taser or knife as possibilities. I haven't made the knife leap because I can see very few advantages if you already have a gun. e.g. Weapon retention, possibly in the confines of a car or truck. There are a lot of knife guys on here. Maybe the can educate us both.

 

[ATF Consumer]

How about concealing a sub 2K?

or in the back of a jacket?

 

[lawrra]

Does anyone on here carry a knife or any weapon other than a gun? I have thought about doing it before but not sure..

Yep. I've carried a knife since I was 16 for several reasons. It's a tool just like a carry gun and it serves a purpose. I could try cutting rope or opening a package with my gun, but I don't think that would work out so well . My knife is my back-up if my I am in an unfortunate situation where my gun is out of commission. Some people may not be as willing to comply with the demands of someone wielding a knife, but it's better than having nothing. It also helps to have a big, mean looking, shiny knife . So I carry a Spyderco Police SS C07 (4.125" blade, 9.4375" open length, fully serrated) in addition to my XDm 40.

 

[KokomoDave]

I carry this Tom Krein UBK in a Galco shoulder rig or on my vest.

 

[cubby]

kokomodave isn't bullshittin either. he carries that bitch.

the pommel actually scraps the ground when he walks. sounds like "thunkskkkkkkkkkkrrrrrrreeeeeeeethunkskkkkkkkkkkkrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee".........


when you decided to carry other weapons, remeber, it goes without says you get trained or have a great grasp of use of the weapon. just like people who carry guns and don't know a know a negligant discharge from a draw stroke, you have to KNOW your systems.

it sounds real cool to say "i carry XXX, XXX, and two XXX's" but just having a space shuttle don't make you an astronuat!

alternate weapons: baton, oc, knives, knuckles, saps/jacks, kubatons, ninja super stick, book from the library, TRUCK. best weapon is the brain..... and a "i WILL get home tonight" mindset.

 

[Passive101]

Sword cane FTW!