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  • Boiled Owl

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    Let's rewind to 2 years ago with Obama pushing healthcare and Tea Party rallies.
    Congress goes back to the Republicans with some major influence from the Tea Party.
    Here is the two prong question:
    1. Congress controls the purse. Could they not stop the funding for Executive orders and so forth. EPA mandates, programs strangling business?
    2. Given the performance of this congress on let's say budget and deficit reduction, considering the mandate of the conservative Tea Party influence, whey would anyone believe that anything in Washington ever change by voting for a status quo president?

    In summary: Couldn't the power of the "purse" hold the executive in check?
    Has this congress done anything substantial to stop the maddness?
    Why do we perpetually think voting for a change matters?
    PS: I gave up on the CUBS and wait 'till next year!
     

    88GT

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    Let's rewind to 2 years ago with Obama pushing healthcare and Tea Party rallies.
    Congress goes back to the Republicans with some major influence from the Tea Party.
    Here is the two prong question:
    1. Congress controls the purse. Could they not stop the funding for Executive orders and so forth. EPA mandates, programs strangling business?
    2. Given the performance of this congress on let's say budget and deficit reduction, considering the mandate of the conservative Tea Party influence, whey would anyone believe that anything in Washington ever change by voting for a status quo president?

    In summary: Couldn't the power of the "purse" hold the executive in check?
    Has this congress done anything substantial to stop the maddness?
    Why do we perpetually think voting for a change matters?
    PS: I gave up on the CUBS and wait 'till next year!
    I was with you right up to the point you said it didn't matter. Why are you so adamant about voting for Paul if change doesn't matter? I think you need to check your premises; one of them has to be wrong.
     

    Boiled Owl

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    Again 88GT why are you so adamant to turn every thread into a Ron Paul bash?
    I can't help the fact that you don't have the capacity to make a choice for yourself and your only recourse is to malign others choice.
    How about sticking to the OP?
     

    Boiled Owl

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    88GT:
    In answer your to your post. Do I think RP would change things. Sure, until he's stonewalled by the status quo. That being the ingrained pols who stand to lose from the ongoing graft and Federal Reserve shenanigans.
     

    SemperFiUSMC

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    As you said, Congress controls the purse strings. Why would anyone think that the President has any actual control over the budgeting, taxing, and appropriations process, when the position is granted none of these in the Constitution? Why does anyone think that electing an alleged spending hawk to the Presidency makes an iota of difference? It doesn't. You want a government that controls its spending? Elect representatives and Senators that support reductions in spending. The best times we had economically in recent memory was with a Republican Congress and Democrat President (Oval Orifice shenanigans notwithstanding).

    The President has only the authority to spend the money given him by Congress. All this crap about "I'll eliminate this agency or that department" is pandering to a crowd. The nominees who claim such know they are powerless to implement their empty campaign promises without Congressional approval. People that claim to support these candidates and the Constitution know they are lies as well. We all follow our own Pied Pipers off the edge of the cliff.
     

    spec4

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    OP, Congress did not go to the Republicans in 2010, only the House of Representatives. The Senate is still controlled by the liberal socialists under the ruthless guidance of criminal Harry Reid. IMO, if the GOP had strong control of both houses, and competent leadership, they could give Obama a rough time.
     

    buckstopshere

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    There is technically correct and reality.

    We can't kid ourselves, congress controlling the purse is technically correct but we all know it's the federal reserve that is controling how our money is being spent.

    Let's start with voting out all incumbents in 2012.

    This is a big boat (titanic comes to mind) and you can't turn it's fat butt on a dime. The tea party movement in 2008 got the hands on the wheel, the liberty movement of 2012 will hopefully catch enough fire that the hands will start turning the wheel.
     
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