Cop orders man to put legal OC gun on ground. Kills him when he tries to comply.

[cce1302]

I always trust 1 minute videos to tell the whole story.

I didn't imply that at all.

 

[Ziggidy]

 

[jsharmon7]

I always trust 1 minute videos to tell the whole story.

That dog looks pretty nervous. They know...

 

[MCgrease08]

You know, it's funny to watch these threads through the lens of escalation and de-escalation. Which individuals escalate, and which ones attempt to de-escalate. It often reflects reality, too.

I wouldn't dare to point out what escalation and de-escalation might have taken place in this particular engagement.

I was answering the question that was asked me. Are you really having this much trouble keeping up?

 

[Birds Away]

I'm saying that everything that the man did that was shown in the video was lawful. I thought my words were clear the first time.

So non-compliance is lawful? This I did not know.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

So non-compliance is lawful? This I did not know.

Not every command is worth following. Especially when the command results in you doing something that will get you killed.

People in this very thread have said they would have done otherwise, keeping hands high in air, nowhere near their gun.

 

[cce1302]

You too? How hard is it to follow the question and my response?

 

[cce1302]

So non-compliance is lawful? This I did not know.

What law did he break in the video?

 

[Birds Away]

What law did he break in the video?

I'm no lawyer but failing to comply would be my first guess. It's pretty easy to pile on the cops when you haven't walked a mile in their shoes.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I'm no lawyer but failing to comply would be my first guess. It's pretty easy to pile on the cops when you haven't walked a mile in their shoes.

If a cop tells you to jump off a bridge, is it illegal to disobey?

I think it's OK to pile onto a cop. I don't think anyone here is generalizing all cops. As we've seen, both people involved could have done things differently.

So, failing to comply... I think that depends on the demand being reasonable. One might argue that being told to touch your gun isn't exactly reasonable.

 

[Sigblitz]

I was told to never touch my gun in public.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I will display this next to my Safety Ninny Award.

Thank you.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I always trust 1 minute videos to tell the whole story.

Taken in context, it is absolutely true. Hitler loved that dog to the point that at the end of the war he was more worried about the Russians capturing and mistreating her than he was about them capturing him. She was the only living being he truly trusted. How he dealt with human beings does not fall into that context.

 

[2A_Tom]

A matter of perspective.

[video=youtube;trMpjAGseng]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trMpjAGseng[/video]

 

[HoughMade]

....keeping hands high in air, nowhere near their gun.

...and had he done that.....

 

[MCgrease08]

You too? How hard is it to follow the question and my response?

I'm following along just fine. If you don't see the irony of your two statements I quoted, then I can't help you.

 

[IndyDave1776]

What an argument over two screaming idiots and one silent idiot.

 

[cce1302]

I'm no lawyer but failing to comply would be my first guess. It's pretty easy to pile on the cops when you haven't walked a mile in their shoes.

Please cite the law. I haven't piled on anyone.

 

[cce1302]

I'm following along just fine. If you don't see the irony of your two statements I quoted, then I can't help you.

All i see is denny either failing to see that i posted a simple answer to a question or trying to get a reaction from me with his comments. My question back to him was pretty tame.

Again, seriously?

 

[printcraft]

That dog looks pretty nervous. They know...

Polish Shepherd...