crime rates in england vs world

[rocketscience]

appears a legit reporter offering facts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRJ0ls_W9XM&feature=player_embedded#!

 

[griffin]

He is correct, but this is nothing new. I think I posted this before on INGO, so all he's doing is replicating research I did a while back. Maybe he copied it from me!

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The U.S. has a violent crime rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, and the U.K. 2,034.

U.S. - 466
Can - 935
U.K. - 2,034

Assaults
Definition: 'Assault' means physical attack against the body of another person resulting in serious bodily injury; excluding indecent/sexual assault; threats and slapping/punching. 'Assault' leading to death should also be excluded.

Rate/100,000	2003	2004	2005	2006	2007	2008	2009

USA 		294.9	288.2	290.5	291.8	286.4	276.1	262.2
England/Wales	862.8	967.3	1,013.7	939.4	832.9	769.9	729.8
Scotland	1,232.5	1,584.9	1,542.8	1,655.1	1,545.9	1,545.7	1,487.2

Robbery
Definition: “Robbery” means the theft of property from a person; overcoming resistance by force or threat of force. Where possible, the category “Robbery” should include muggings and theft with violence; but should exclude pick pocketing and extortion.

Rate/100,000	2003	2004	2005	2006	2007	2008	2009

USA		142.2	136.5	140.6	150.2	147.9	145.4	132.7
England/Wales	196.5	171.5	183.8	188.7	156.7	147.2	137.0

Theft
Definition: 'Theft” means depriving a person or organization of property without force with the intent to keep it. “Theft” excludes burglary; housebreaking; robbery; and theft of a motor vehicle, which are recorded separately.

Rate/100,000	2003	2004	2005	2006	2007	2008	2009

USA		2,412.3	2,359.0	2,285.4	2,215.4	2,179.1	2,160.1	2,056.4
England/Wales	4,263.5	3,439.9	3,378.8	3,261.8	2,972.1	2,799.8	2,581.0
Scotland	3,007.9	2,953.8	2,730.9	2,686.6	2,479.1	2,487.8	2,231.2

Burglary breaking and entering
Definition: “Burglary” means gaining unauthorized access to a part of a building/dwelling or other premises; including by use of force; with the intent to steal goods (breaking and entering). “Burglary” should include; where possible; theft from a house; apartment or other dwelling place; factory; shop or office; from a military establishment; or by using false keys. It should exclude theft from a car; from a container; from a vending machine; from a parking meter and from fenced meadow/compound.

Rate/100,000	2003	2004	2005	2006	2007	2008	2009

USA		739.8	729.2	726.2	733.2	723.6	730.7	714.7
England/Wales	1,553.3	1,282.4	1,207.6	1,157.8	1,079.2	1,068.0	986.4
Scotland	726.6	688.4	614.7	597.6	494.6	493.3	457.7

Data

Now homicides, yes, we are 4x higher than England (1.2 England v. 5 for US). But you are talking a couple of points per hundred thousand people. Compare that to physical assault resulting in serious bodily injury: 262 for US v. 730 for England or 1,487 for Scotland!

It is true that we have a high murder rate, mostly of criminals killing criminals. Also, our murder rate is high largely due to the multicultural nature of our society. Blacks have a vastly higher criminal and victim homicide rate than our society as an average:

Homicide Offender Rate/100,000 by Race in US:

• 3.4 – White
• 25.8 – Black
• 3.2 – Other

If you took blacks out of the equation, we'd be on par with Germany and lower than France.

 

[griffin]

Oh yeah, two things I didn't mention above:

1) due to an error it was determined that the UK actually under-reported their stats
2) a number of years ago the UK stopped taking reports on minor assaults. To conserve the resources of the inundated criminal justice system, English police no longer investigate burglary and “minor assaults.” As of 2006, if the police catch a mugger, robber, or burglar, or other “minor” criminal in the act, the policy is to release them with a warning rather than to arrest and prosecute them.

Cites for #2:
Daniel Foggo, Donʹt Bother About Burglary, Police Told, SUNDAY TELEGRAPH (LONDON), Jan. 12, 2003
Steve Doughty, Let Burglars Off With Caution Police Told, DAILY MAIL (London), Apr. 3, 2006

 

[Tin Cup]

Great video. So what they are saying is.... more guns do = less crime.

 

[Degtyaryov]

More violent than south africa... well done England.

 

[ghunter]

So scary that so many here still believe the "crime free UK" myth.

 

[BravoMike]

Straight from the FBI. Higher population, more guns (almost 1 to 1 ratio), and less violent crime and murder/ non negligent manslaughter. Check out the trend over the last 20 years. Bring this up next time someone tries to tell you that we are less safe of a society because of guns.

FBI — Table 1

 

[Nemick]

I'm from England and it most certainly is a myth that it's crime free. Anything not bolted down, locked up or otherwise secured is fair game for the criminally minded. Being beaten to a pulp just because someone is frustrated at their lot in life is also common. Don't try to defend yourself or your loved one's or you'll end up behind bars. Don't bother calling the cops either. They are so thin on the ground that they're not likely to show up for an hour or so, if at all. In fact, there are so few police boots on the ground, that the country has in excess of 3 MILLION cameras watching your every move. George Orwell got it right.