Death Penalty for F Troop: DOJ Killing ATFE?

[Kirk Freeman]

Wanting to beat Congress to the punch Department of Justice considering eliminating ATFE.

F Troop must go. The laws they enforce must go.

Bombshell: DOJ Considering Elimination of ATF - Katie Pavlich - Townhall Conservative

 

[MadBomber]

From the article: "DOJ would eliminate ATF only to take the heat off of the Obama Administration. By eliminating the bureau, it makes it seem like DOJ is taking Operation Fast and Furious so seriously, they decided to “clear out the corruption, clean house,” however, it would only be a distraction away from the people at the top of the investigation."

 

[Leadeye]

More BS from dc leadership that doesn't see that anything is wrong. This will blow over and it will be back to business as usual.

the dc way

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Is it business as usual for a department to openly discuss the abolition of an agency?

No one died at Watergate.

 

[Lucas156]

O we could only dream. Id pay money for that seriously.

 

[CarmelHP]

Is it business as usual for a department to openly discuss the abolition of an agency?

No one died at Watergate.

I would pay money to see this happen.

 

[jeremy]

Never Happen...

 

[Blackhawk2001]

On the one hand, you have an entrenched ATF bureaucracy that has been fairly capricious in its various rulings. On the other hand, if all its responsibilities get turned over to other agencies, you've got a 90/10 chance that EVERYTHING will get screwed up worse. Not sure which I'd favor.

 

[spearheadersarge]

Well, it couldn't be much worse! One fed agency is just as bad as the next but if it cut 450 leeches off the payroll, I'm all for it. I am not niave enough to think those let go would not be hired by any subsequent agency newly assigned those duties. There should be a qualifier that any new jobs being filled be unemployed veterans or something like that. Wasn't that one of Obama's big job pushes? Emphasis on hiring vets? Sounds good to me!

 

[MadBomber]

Never Happen...

/\ This.....

However, even though I think there's about a 98.3% percent chance of this not happening, if F- Troop is "re-organized", shutdown, or whatever, I can see the ATFE powers shifting to the ultra-evil DHS. Should that happen, I think we'd end up fondly looking back at our dealings with ATFE as "the good 'ol days"

 

[Thomas Carey]

At most they will just name it something else.

 

[ZombieApocolypse]

Is it business as usual for a department to openly discuss the abolition of an agency?

No one died at Watergate.

The irony here is .... Wasnt the head of the ATF transferred to the DOJ as "punishment" for Fast and Furious?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Wasnt the head of the ATF transferred to the DOJ as "punishment" for Fast and Furious?

F Troop is DOJ. The head of ATFE was re-assigned internally. Is this what you mean?

Kenneth Melson, acting director of ATFE, was transferred to a sinecure of Office of Legal Policy in August of 2011.

 

[IndyBeerman]

/\ This.....

However, even though I think there's about a 98.3% percent chance of this not happening, if F- Troop is "re-organized", shutdown, or whatever, I can see the ATFE powers shifting to the ultra-evil DHS. Should that happen, I think we'd end up fondly looking back at our dealings with ATFE as "the good 'ol days"

Guys don't wish for the ATFE to be dissolved because of the above bold highlighted text.

If the Department of Homeland (Screw Us) Security got ahold of these powers, then it would give them the ultimate power surge and power trip.

Think of it, they have the 4473 info of every firearm called in, and all of a sudden every gunowner in America is now on a Terror/Watch list.

 

[RockofStrength]

If by "dissolved" they mean "all policies, responsibilities, and information gathered by this agency will vanish forever along with a couple hundred sacrificial lambs" I'm all for it. If "dissolved" means "we'll just give all of that to someone else" I'd prefer we not give all power to another agency.

 

[CarmelHP]

I would take ANY agency with a myriad of duties over ATF whose ONLY job is to harass gun owners. As long as the current enforcement agents get fired, I'm for it.

 

[ThrottleJockey]

I would take ANY agency with a myriad of duties over ATF whose ONLY job is to harass gun owners. As long as the current enforcement agents get fired, I'm for it.

I agree, there will need to be some MASS firing all the way around before things will ever be able to get back to normal.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

ATFE must be destroyed . . . and salt poured on the ground.

 

[Expat]

ATFE must be destroyed . . . and salt poured on the ground.

An old fashioned razing, excellent.

 

[Stschil]

ATFE must be destroyed . . . and salt poured on the ground.

As long as that is not where they stop in the alphabet.....
Unfortunately, this is just political expiediency, if it happens, all personell, policies, and responsibilities will be laterally transferred to another agency and BATFE will continue to exist, operating in the exact same way. The Forms and letter head will just have DoJ or something else on them.
Don't hold your breath waiting on real justice, it ain't happenin'