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  • tnek

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    LOL If I couldn't think and I was a one issue guy alone I would never vote for a Dem. However I have voted for the rare dem, and even worked for a few in politics (I have also worked for Republicans). I am as much for gun rights as I am the right to marry whomever I choose. So those are my two big issues. What party fits that? How do I reconcile that?

    Thanks,
    Matthew

    Well someone is upset. Really plesant how the fact that someone may be a single issue voter you consider them unable to think. Maybe someone has though it though and that is their conclusion.
    If you personaly have other issues that affect your vote its your choice regardless of how well you think.
    Myself I have voted for the rare local/county dem if they were in support of gun rights.
     

    Fletch

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    Frankly, I don't see gun rights as the most important issue, and I try hard not to vote based on it.

    If we had 100% firearms freedoms, where the only "gun law" was the 2nd Amendment, but had a completely command-and-control, planned economy, would we be better or worse off?

    I see economic freedom as being the single most important factor in deciding to vote for a candidate. And unfortunately for us all, neither the Democrats nor the Republicans (other than the two Pauls) have the economic sense God gave a gerbil.
     

    dross

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    Frankly, I don't see gun rights as the most important issue, and I try hard not to vote based on it.

    If we had 100% firearms freedoms, where the only "gun law" was the 2nd Amendment, but had a completely command-and-control, planned economy, would we be better or worse off?

    I see economic freedom as being the single most important factor in deciding to vote for a candidate. And unfortunately for us all, neither the Democrats nor the Republicans (other than the two Pauls) have the economic sense God gave a gerbil.

    Gerbils are all socialists. They sit around waiting for their masters to give them food and their work product is a wheel that goes around and around but doesn't go anywhere or operate anything.

    Bad animal choice.
     

    Fletch

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    Not to pick a fight, but I can't think of anyone here I'd call a theocrat. Care to name names?
    I can't name names, because I don't keep score. But I've been involved in many discussions where someone will respond with a theocratic attitude -- justifying or advocating a particular government action, program, or policy based on Scripture. When you want the government to do something, recognizing that government does nothing without the use or threat of aggressive violence, and your justification for that action is largely or solely based on Scripture, you are a theocrat with regard to that issue -- you are forcing others to abide by the tenets of your religion.

    I recognized this tendency in myself many years ago, and undertook the study of secular arguments to justify my desires, for the very reason that I did not want to be a theocrat. Ultimately, that effort is what turned me into a libertarian.
     

    awatarius

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    Well someone is upset. Really plesant how the fact that someone may be a single issue voter you consider them unable to think. Maybe someone has though it though and that is their conclusion.
    If you personaly have other issues that affect your vote its your choice regardless of how well you think.
    Myself I have voted for the rare local/county dem if they were in support of gun rights.

    Hello,

    That could have been written better, but it was more in context with the OP post asking how that can be reconciled. Inability to think would mean inability to reconcile. I do think that only having one issue is closed minded---but that's only my opinion. I posted two very important ones but the list goes on and on.

    Thanks,
    Matthew
     

    chraland51

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    Tell me which party is doing anything at all to develope our oil resources. The democraps are at least honest in letting you know that they have no interests in making us much less dependent upon foreign oil and that they would like to see this country be run on wind and solar power which you would have to be severely brain damaged to thing that such a thing could happen.

    The republicans on the other hand were going to do everything that they could to make sure that there was never a repeat of the $4.00+/gallon of gas like we had just a short time ago. The old republican guard is still pretty much around and have done nothing to build new refineries or develope our oil resources. They just keep lying to us and hoping that our memories are as short as they seem to be. Neither party is worth a crap and they never will be. They just worry about maintaining power and their own individual pensions and health insurance plans. John Boehner is about as bad as that skank Pelosi. He is just not as ugly and shrill. I really fear that we are stuck with bammercare as the republicans do not have the cajones to do what really needs to be done----shut down the federal government for however long it takes. Our essential services will continue regardless of what some of the reptilian liars may be telling you.
     

    dross

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    Meh. Whatever. Llama, cougar, earthworm... the point is neither party displays any economic sense.

    I KNOW what your point was, Fletch. Got humor? I thought my gerbil comment was quite funny. In fact, I think it's deserving of a second gold badge.
     

    mrjarrell

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    Meh. Whatever. Llama, cougar, earthworm... the point is neither party displays any economic sense.
    Never were truer words spoken. I heard Indiana's speaker of the house equate a tax cut to spending yesterday, on the radio. Since when is stealing less money spending? Oh, that's right. All our money are belong to the the state. The idiots are in charge. And in Indiana that means republicrats.
     

    awatarius

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    Tell me which party is doing anything at all to develope our oil resources. The democraps are at least honest in letting you know that they have no interests in making us much less dependent upon foreign oil and that they would like to see this country be run on wind and solar power which you would have to be severely brain damaged to thing that such a thing could happen.

    The republicans on the other hand were going to do everything that they could to make sure that there was never a repeat of the $4.00+/gallon of gas like we had just a short time ago. The old republican guard is still pretty much around and have done nothing to build new refineries or develope our oil resources. They just keep lying to us and hoping that our memories are as short as they seem to be. Neither party is worth a crap and they never will be. They just worry about maintaining power and their own individual pensions and health insurance plans. John Boehner is about as bad as that skank Pelosi. He is just not as ugly and shrill. I really fear that we are stuck with bammercare as the republicans do not have the cajones to do what really needs to be done----shut down the federal government for however long it takes. Our essential services will continue regardless of what some of the reptilian liars may be telling you.

    Huh.. I must be brain damaged. My addled and damaged brain seems to think that the best way to reduce dependance on oil is to develop better engines, increase wind power, solar use, and ultimately develop batteries and other forms of energy. It's good for the environment, bad for terrorists, and easier for us to control. I do think that developing more oil is a good short term plan, but it should not be a long term answer.

    Thanks,
    Matthew
     

    rugertoter

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    I'm registered a Republican, have been for almost thirty years, but I tend now to vote for people that will do the best job on many issues. The firearms issue is at the top of the list though, I have to admit that. I generally feel that all politicians are liars and will say what they think will get them the votes. Its a sad state of affairs.
     

    awatarius

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    Never were truer words spoken. I heard Indiana's speaker of the house equate a tax cut to spending yesterday, on the radio. Since when is stealing less money spending? Oh, that's right. All our money are belong to the the state. The idiots are in charge. And in Indiana that means republicrats.

    Socially conservative republicrats the worst kind.
     

    spec4

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    I always vote GOP. If you vote Dem, that means you support Obama, Clinton, Schumer, Kerry, Feinstein, Sebelius, Boxer, Lautenberg, Pelosi, Reid, and a bunch more whose names escape me. You believe that 2A is a collective and not an individual right. You believe we should give amnesty to illegals, and then give them, free college educations. You believe that Illinois is a paradise because the Dems have run it for so long. Dems want big govt and ever expanding control of our lives. I'm not thrilled with the GOP, but I do see a clear difference. Admittedly, many votes are for the lesser of two evils.
     

    Paco Bedejo

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    I always vote GOP. If you vote Dem, that means you support Obama, Clinton, Schumer, Kerry, Feinstein, Sebelius, Boxer, Lautenberg, Pelosi, Reid, and a bunch more whose names escape me. You believe that 2A is a collective and not an individual right. You believe we should give amnesty to illegals, and then give them, free college educations. You believe that Illinois is a paradise because the Dems have run it for so long. Dems want big govt and ever expanding control of our lives. I'm not thrilled with the GOP, but I do see a clear difference. Admittedly, many votes are for the lesser of two evils.

    I always vote liberty. If you vote GOP, that means you support Bush, Cheney, Boehner, and a bunch more whose names escape me. You believe that 4A is outdated and not applicable in a world with terrorism. You believe we should build a wall across our borders instead of addressing the handouts which lure people across them. You believe that habeus corpus is quaint & unimportant. The GOP wants big govt and ever expanding control of our lives. I'm not thrilled with either party & see no clear difference. Admittedly, many votes are for the most popular fascist.

    You're not picking sports teams here spec4...please realize that both parties are out to control you. The "us" -vs- "them" isn't R® -vs- D®...it's control -vs- liberty.
     

    awatarius

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    I always vote GOP. If you vote Dem, that means you support Obama, Clinton, Schumer, Kerry, Feinstein, Sebelius, Boxer, Lautenberg, Pelosi, Reid, and a bunch more whose names escape me. You believe that 2A is a collective and not an individual right. You believe we should give amnesty to illegals, and then give them, free college educations. You believe that Illinois is a paradise because the Dems have run it for so long. Dems want big govt and ever expanding control of our lives. I'm not thrilled with the GOP, but I do see a clear difference. Admittedly, many votes are for the lesser of two evils.

    UM first off all not all of those people are the same type of person. Clinton and Pelosi are nothing alike.. BAH whatever. I don't always believe half of what you say, or even most yet I don't vote GOP all the time. Generalizations don't help your point. There are lot's of shades of gray for those to see that are not politically color blind.

    Thanks,
    Matthew
     

    john0286

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    I always vote liberty. If you vote GOP, that means you support Bush, Cheney, Boehner, and a bunch more whose names escape me. You believe that 4A is outdated and not applicable in a world with terrorism. You believe we should build a wall across our borders instead of addressing the handouts which lure people across them. You believe that habeus corpus is quaint & unimportant. The GOP wants big govt and ever expanding control of our lives. I'm not thrilled with either party & see no clear difference. Admittedly, many votes are for the most popular fascist.

    You're not picking sports teams here spec4...please realize that both parties are out to control you. The "us" -vs- "them" isn't R® -vs- D®...it's control -vs- liberty.

    NAILED IT!
     
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