Democrats want to Legalize Marijuana

[indiucky]

Lol. Gonna swing back around to refer madness now, great plan.

You just know she was listening to Coltrane while she did it...

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[phylodog]

You just know she was listening to Coltrane while she did it...

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No doubt. Her and the millions upon millions of others who partake and go on murderous rampages every year. I'm 100% positive a defense lawyer was not involved in her story.

Just look at Abe Lincoln, he toked up and look at how many people he (had) killed.

 

[indiucky]

No doubt. Her and the millions upon millions of others who partake and go on murderous rampages every year. I'm 100% positive a defense lawyer was not involved in her story.

Just look at Abe Lincoln, he toked up and look at how many people he (had) killed.

Lester and Earl warned us of the dangers of "dim lights, thick smoke, and dead head music"

 

[Timjoebillybob]

No doubt. Her and the millions upon millions of others who partake and go on murderous rampages every year. I'm 100% positive a defense lawyer was not involved in her story.

Just look at Abe Lincoln, he toked up and look at how many people he (had) killed.

Don't forget good ol George Washington. He crossed a frozen river to slit peoples throats in their sleep on Christmas morn.

If Willie hasn't gone on a murderous rampage yet, I'm not to concerned about people that smoke less than ungodly amounts.

 

[gassprint1]

If Willie hasn't gone on a murderous rampage yet, I'm not to concerned about people that smoke less than ungodly amounts.

Don't forget cheech and chong..

 

[phylodog]

Don't forget good ol George Washington. He crossed a frozen river to slit peoples throats in their sleep on Christmas morn.

I started to mention him but from what little I've seen/read it's pretty well established that he grew hemp but evidence of him using it isn't quite as clear so I left his name out hoping to avoid a debate.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I started to mention him but from what little I've seen/read it's pretty well established that he grew hemp but evidence of him using it isn't quite as clear so I left his name out hoping to avoid a debate.

Yep, no definitive proof. What makes me believe he did was an entry in his farm journals. He writes about growing a plot on part of his land and was too late, the males had already pollinated the females and the entire plot was ruined. There isn't too many reasons you would want to prevent pollination.

 

[edporch]

I started to mention him but from what little I've seen/read it's pretty well established that he grew hemp but evidence of him using it isn't quite as clear so I left his name out hoping to avoid a debate.

An interesting tidbit is, in one entry I read several years ago, he says he waited too long to separate the males from the females.
Which I understand is done to increase the potency of the flower tops for medicinal purposes.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

An interesting tidbit is, in one entry I read several years ago, he says he waited too long to separate the males from the females.
Which I understand is done to increase the potency of the flower tops for medicinal purposes.

That is one reason, there are others. Main one is to produce hybrids, but yes preventing fertilization of the females does increase potency and bud yield. And since he kept very detailed notes and didn't mention any hybridization attempts...

 

[asevans]

The hemp plant was used for rope and a lot of stuff back then. It was a major crop up until around WWll when DuPont made a synthetic form of hemp and lobbied for its banning.
Interesting history

 

[Hawkeye]

The hemp plant was used for rope and a lot of stuff back then. It was a major crop up until around WWll when DuPont made a synthetic form of hemp and lobbied for its banning.
Interesting history

Not so sure that is true. Can you document the bit about DuPont?

 

[greg]

Not so sure that is true. Can you document the bit about DuPont?

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[Hawkeye]

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Interesting. I'll have to spend some time looking at it.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Interesting. I'll have to spend some time looking at it.

While you're at it also look into William Randolph Hearst, and Henry Anslinger. All three of them were instrumental in criminalizing marijuana for their own benefit.

 

[BugI02]

It might be good if one didn't separate the inadvisability of relying on a crutch (regular use of drugs of any kind) too much from the idea that people are always willing to make money off of the weaknesses of their fellow man

The fact that prominent and connected people in the British Empire were making profits off of the opium trade in no way affects the advisability of opium use for the better, and testimonials and anecdotes should not replace evidence. Neither should the idea that primitive shamans possibly used weed millennia ago - they seem to have been willing to use anything that would get them high, much like today's drug users

 

[KLB]

It might be good if one didn't separate the inadvisability of relying on a crutch (regular use of drugs of any kind) too much from the idea that people are always willing to make money off of the weaknesses of their fellow man

The fact that prominent and connected people in the British Empire were making profits off of the opium trade in no way affects the advisability of opium use for the better, and testimonials and anecdotes should not replace evidence. Neither should the idea that primitive shamans possibly used weed millennia ago - they seem to have been willing to use anything that would get them high, much like today's drug users

Who advocated relying on said crutch?

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

It might be good if one didn't separate the inadvisability of relying on a crutch (regular use of drugs of any kind) too much from the idea that people are always willing to make money off of the weaknesses of their fellow man

The fact that prominent and connected people in the British Empire were making profits off of the opium trade in no way affects the advisability of opium use for the better, and testimonials and anecdotes should not replace evidence. Neither should the idea that primitive shamans possibly used weed millennia ago - they seem to have been willing to use anything that would get them high, much like today's drug users

Very good points. Lots of rabbit trails in this thread.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

It might be good if one didn't separate the inadvisability of relying on a crutch (regular use of drugs of any kind) too much from the idea that people are always willing to make money off of the weaknesses of their fellow man

The fact that prominent and connected people in the British Empire were making profits off of the opium trade in no way affects the advisability of opium use for the better, and testimonials and anecdotes should not replace evidence. Neither should the idea that primitive shamans possibly used weed millennia ago - they seem to have been willing to use anything that would get them high, much like today's drug users

Does that also apply to let's say scotch? How about caffeine?

 

[edporch]

The hemp plant was used for rope and a lot of stuff back then. It was a major crop up until around WWll when DuPont made a synthetic form of hemp and lobbied for its banning.
Interesting history

Yes, this is true.
I grew up in Jasper County, Indiana in NW Indiana.
A lot of hemp was grown there for the war effort, and even after they stopped growing it, it continued to grow wild in a good part of the county for many years.

I remember well into the 1970's when there were parts of the county where you could drive down a country road and it would be growing on both sides of the road in the ditches.

I ALSO remember that every fall, there'd be people coming from out of state to pick it and getting busted.
THE JOKE was, the locals knew it wasn't good for getting high on, so the idiots who came from out of state were basically getting busted for nothing!

Rolling Stone magazine even did a story on it in the late 1970's.

 

[BugI02]

Does that also apply to let's say scotch? How about caffeine?

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