disrespectful libertarians hijack CPAC?

[gunowner930]

Disrespectful Libertarians Hijack CPAC Poll -- And Its Mission - FoxNews.com

This is an opinion piece written by a conservative. Here are some quotes. Full article linked.

*redacted*

I thought the piece was humorous.

 

[nawainwright]

ROTFL!!!! Those mean nasty dirty libertarians, why are they always picking on us? Swinging their MASSIVE voter power back and forth like they are the big #($% around here. They slander the tender and fragile republican base....

Say what you want about the Libertarians, but this is beyond "hyped"

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

Humorous is one way to put it - "uber-disrespectful" being part of the vocabulary definitely backs up the humorous notion...

Fox news not backing Ron Paul, and backing one of their own commentators for the presidency, also, is "uber-disrespectful" and humorous.

 

[kevinj110]

Ha Ha I love it

 

[TiminMishawaka]

I have a friend on the ground at CPAC. Ron Paul bussed in college students for the sole purpose of voting for him in the straw pole. That's a liberal trick

 

[Kirk Freeman]

 

[IrishSon of Liberty]

After quickly skimming the article, the only thing I agree with is that Mitt Romney is unelectable!

 

[Duncan]

I have a friend on the ground at CPAC. Ron Paul bussed in college students for the sole purpose of voting for him in the straw pole. That's a liberal trick

If that info is accurate and correct ... I am sorry to hear that .
It upsets me if Libertarians did this .. of course RP is a Republican .
In any event I disrespect this type of ballot stuffing .

Thanks

Duncan

 

[Duncan]

Just did some spot check reading of this article .
This guy has no clue what the basis of the Libertarian philosophy is .
Yes there are some people in the party that meet the extreme ideals that he has labeled the party with .
But his analysis is wrong .

Thanks
Duncan

 

[mrjarrell]

If that info is accurate and correct ... I am sorry to hear that .
It upsets me if Libertarians did this .. of course RP is a Republican .
In any event I disrespect this type of ballot stuffing .

Thanks

Duncan

I seriously doubt Paul "bussed in" anyone. Did groups of his college supporters show up on buses as groups? Quite likely. It's an economical way to travel, especially after having to pay the CPAC entry fees. ($35 students/$75 general and even more for special packages). I doubt Ron Paul had to do anything other than show up, to draw a crowd of interested students. Of course, these people are just doing what they've wanted libertarians to do for years. Work from within the movement to make a change. Unfortunately, when you do exactly what they've been saying you should do, they get all butthurt and start accusing people of all sorts of things. There was an interesting tweet on CPAC and the Paulites.

"I witnessed someone calling Ron Paul people a “cult” while eating a cake shaped like Reagan’s face."

Guess it only matters if you're worshiping a dead guy, rather than supporting a live one. CPAC, and the right are changing as their base ages and finds a taste for handouts. The young are going to take it over and the geezer neo-cons had better learn to live with that. Their days are numbered.

 

[TiminMishawaka]

Just found another source (not my friend who was there) of someone else who saw the kids bussed in by Ron Paul to vote for him in the straw poll.

YID With LID: Why Ron Paul's Victory in the CPAC Straw Poll is Meaningless

 

[rambone]

What an utterly asinine article.

Libertarians and Conservatives are as different as Libertarians and Liberals. The truth is libertarians are the worst form of political affiliation in the nation. Combining the desire of economic greed, with the amoral desire to promote any behavior regardless of its cost to our culture is a stark departure from the intent of the Founding Fathers.

 

[level.eleven]

My favorite CPAC moments, in no particular order.

Dick Cheney presenting the "Defender of the Constitution Award" to Don Rumsfeld.

As mentioned, the cake tweet.

Trump calling for a 25% tax on all Chinese goods.

The funniest, has to be the warning issued via a fundraiser email from one of the groups in attendance. Don't go out drinking with teh geys, they will try and getcha!

Malkin Award Nominee - The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan

 

[rambone]

I have a friend on the ground at CPAC. Ron Paul bussed in college students for the sole purpose of voting for him in the straw pole. That's a liberal trick

Just found another source (not my friend who was there) of someone else who saw the kids bussed in by Ron Paul to vote for him in the straw poll.

YID With LID: Why Ron Paul's Victory in the CPAC Straw Poll is Meaningless

Are you saying that CPAC is only for people in the Washington D.C. area? Because I thought it was a national event that people from all over the country came to. The fact that Ron Paul supporters are motivated and organized enough to arrange for group transportation says a lot about their willingness to engage these Neocons and beat them at their own game, and support their candidate of choice.

As for the baseless rumor about CPAC attendees being paid, what a laugh. And the progressive blogger that is spreading that rumor... wow. He must not have ever met at Ron Paul supporter before. They are among the most active and dedicated group out there. The ones I know don't need to be paid to support Ron Paul -- in fact, they contribute their own money to his election campaigns.


Who in their right mind supports Mitt Romney anyways? Maybe we should all be wondering if the Democrats are paying to send people to CPAC, or if the GOP really is that packed filled with socialists.

 

[level.eleven]

More fun from CPAC.

Apparently, it was infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood. The infiltrator is an NRA board member...

ThinkProgress Frank Gaffney Braves Muslim Brotherhood Infiltration To Warn CPAC About Grover Norquist

Pamela Geller versus CPAC - War Room - Salon.com

Muslim Brotherhood and "caliphate" are the new boogeymen I guess. UBL is sooooo last year.

 

[TiminMishawaka]

Here's a third source that corroborates the stories I'm hearing that Ron Paul bused in votes to win the straw poll.

Texas for Sarah Palin: Jeff Dunetz: What the media didn't tell you about CPAC

Did Rambone say something or was he too busy posting night school ads and thinking they're FBI ads?

 

[rambone]

Lmao.

Mitt Romney: supporter of socialized medicine and gun control. A Big Government socialist loser like Romney regularly shows popularity at CPAC -- and nobody bats an eye.

But a guy like Ron Paul, who won't put his name on anything unless it is overwhelmingly constitutional, shows popularity at CPAC -- and it must be election fraud! Real Republicans wouldn't dare support a constitutionalist!

Bwahahaha. Brilliant, Tim! Mitt Romney is the REAL conservative favorite. Keep reminding people that the GOP is joke and would never support liberty on its own. If that isn't your point then you sure did a good job of driving it home. LOL

 

[hoosier_gooner]

I have a friend on the ground at CPAC. Ron Paul bussed in college students for the sole purpose of voting for him in the straw pole. That's a liberal trick

Every single speaker at CPAC does the same thing. Romney paid all travel and room expenses for his crowd. So your argument doesn't hold water.

Anyway, since this is becoming a liberty bashing thread let me chime in with my 2 cents.

'If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.' You know who said that? The champion of a large sector of the greater conservative movement did--none other than Ronald flippin' Reagan. And he was absolutely correct about that statement. The real basis of modern conservatism is that of classical liberalism or libertarianism, however in recent generations conservatism has been co-opted by disenfranchised progressive socialists. That's right, what makes up the neo-conservitism movement championed by Republicans like George W. Bush, his father alike, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz and most of the Republican leaders who have steered the Conservative debate for generations have all been adherents to neoconservative doctrine.

You want to know the problem with neoconservatism? Well, for starters its basic philosophical roots are that of socialism. Yes, neoconservatism is a socialist doctrine. Two of the most influential people in its philosophy were Leo Strauss and Leon Trotsky and yet neoconservatives despise communism without ever knowing their own movement was influenced by the writings of V.I. Lenin's closest comrade turned rival. What's even worse is that neoconservatism preaches an ideology of blind nationalism, confuses the population to the difference between defensive military spending and aggressive military conquest, adopts forms of corporatism (a fascist trait of the merging of state and corporation), and just like its communism brother--will lead to the economic destruction of any society that adopts its tenets.

What the libertarians, Constitutionalists, Classical Liberals or whatever variation of ethos preach are limited government, non-intervention, fiscal responsibility, business partnerships with foreign nations but warn against the consequences of permanent alliances. Basically they want a small government that keeps a military able to protect its sovereignty and legal structure to protect the individual rights granted to us by our creator so that each individual may seek out and create their own destinies so much as their ability and drive may allow.

I for one do not adhere to socialism in any of its forms whether it be communism, fascism, or the self denial closet socialism of the neoconservative movement. I think classical liberalism gave us a good basis of how to govern ourselves; it allows each individual the right to pursue the highest levels of freedom, peace, and prosperity.

 

[ocsdor]

Every single speaker at CPAC does the same thing. Romney paid all travel and room expenses for his crowd. So your argument doesn't hold water.

I heard the same story about Romney.

 

[SirRealism]

'If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.' You know who said that? The champion of a large sector of the greater conservative movement did--none other than Ronald flippin' Reagan. And he was absolutely correct about that statement. The real basis of modern conservatism is that of classical liberalism or libertarianism, however in recent generations conservatism has been co-opted by disenfranchised progressive socialists. That's right, what makes up the neo-conservitism movement championed by Republicans like George W. Bush, his father alike, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz and most of the Republican leaders who have steered the Conservative debate for generations have all been adherents to neoconservative doctrine.

Cool Reagan quote. Thanks, I hadn't heard that.

As to the article in the OP: nothing but envious tripe. That pathetic wing of the "conservatives" just can't see fit to recognize that Ron Paul hasn't "given up identity..." he has retained it through consistent adherence to his principles and the Constitution.