DNA with Felony Charge

[EyeCarry]

Wasn't there a thread about this awhile back??

 

[Ark]

I've always wondered if those "find your ancestors" DNA places sell the info.

At least on the federal level, I don't think they have to. I sincerely doubt their systems are all that secure. Secret warrant, NSA break-in, and you've got another database to run DNA samples through and find either customers or family members.

 

[Ark]

But if I'm falsely accused, I don't want to surrender any of my sacred fluids lol.

I'll happily surrender some fluid, but it's not gonna be the one they want.

 

[Sling10mm]

Well, at least .gov doesn't misuse personal information, or allow it to fall into the wrong hands.

 

[Vigilant]

I know a guy that voluntarily surrendered some fluid, and caught a battery by bodily fluid charge! Spitters aren’t always quitters!

 

[ScouT6a]

"The new requirement comes after the passing of Senate Enrolled Act 322, which was authored by State Sens. Erin Houchin (R-Salem) and Joe Zakas (R-Granger).

Previously, state law only allowed for the swab to be taken after a felony conviction. The sample will now be taken when the suspect’s fingerprints, photographs and other data are documented during the booking process.

The DNA profile will be run through the state’s Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) and compared to other profiles in the database, only after a finding of probable cause.

If an individual is acquitted of all felony charges, the charges are lowered to a misdemeanor, or no charges are filed after one-year, the sample may be expunged."

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Wasn't there a thread about this awhile back??

Yes:

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...tors-want-your-bodily-essence-dna-arrest.html

My opinion hasn't changed.

 

[Trigger Time]

"The new requirement comes after the passing of Senate Enrolled Act 322, which was authored by State Sens. Erin Houchin (R-Salem) and Joe Zakas (R-Granger).

Previously, state law only allowed for the swab to be taken after a felony conviction. The sample will now be taken when the suspect’s fingerprints, photographs and other data are documented during the booking process.

The DNA profile will be run through the state’s Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) and compared to other profiles in the database, only after a finding of probable cause.

If an individual is acquitted of all felony charges, the charges are lowered to a misdemeanor, or no charges are filed after one-year, the sample may be expunged."

Yeah expunged, just like the ATF and FBI doesn't save 4473 and other info electronically, until it was proven that they do but according to the law can't. But they do anyways.
Once the govt has something they don't lose or expunge it unless they want to or it's beneficial to them and when they say they lost it they are lying and just hid it.
Just like if you are arrested, even if you aren't convicted that arresst stays in the police's database forever.
Now tell me your not gonna be treated any different of a attempted murder or resisting arrest charge pops up with your name even if you aren't convicted of either.
Our system is bull ****

 

[dugsagun]

It is kind of a sad state of affairs to live in these nowadays times. Those that are supposed to represent us are the most corrupt of all, and those that are supposed to defend us are treating everyone like they are already guilty. it's time for a beer.

 

[Dirtebiker]

One can be innocent and still get arrested for a felony.

Don’t know how to use purple?

 

[KMaC]

A universal DNA database has been on the .gov wish list for a very long time. If they thought they could get away with it, they'd DNA everyone at birth, fingerprint at 18, and update pictures for facial recognition every five years.

Uh, you're late to the party. Who said they have to ask or tell you about it? Department of Health has been taking every baby's blood/dna since 1991 and keeping it in a data base-until they got caught. But I'm sure they're not doing anymore.
https://www.rt.com/usa/172208-indiana-baby-blood-samples/

 

[Jeepster48439]

Well, at least .gov doesn't misuse personal information, or allow it to fall into the wrong hands.

FIFY.

 

[GREEN607]

What's everyone's opinion on this new law?
Used to be that if a person was convicted of a felony, that got their DNA put on file.
Now, if a person is even charged with a felony, they get a DNA swab.
My concern is, charges can get dropped or they can be pled down in many cases.
It is my understanding (correct me if I am wrong) that the DNA stays on file "to help solve cold cases".
Does this violate a person's rights, in your opinion?

In my humble opinion..... yes, it probably violates your rights, and may well get 'overturned' in a court, eventually.

But quite honestly, it doesn't bother me personally, because-

1. I have no intentions of ever doing anything that can get me charged with a felony; nor do I intend to "look like" anyone who would commit a felony.

2. The only strange or interesting thing in my DNA, is likely from another solar system.....

 

[voidsherpa]

1. I have no intentions of ever doing anything that can get me charged with a felony; nor do I intend to "look like" anyone who would commit a felony.

It's not like labs ever mess up samples. DNA is "infallible" these days...

 

[edporch]

One can be innocent and still get arrested for a felony.

Yes.
That's why you should have to be convicted first.

 

[TheDude]

"The new requirement comes after the passing of Senate Enrolled Act 322, which was authored by State Sens. Erin Houchin (R-Salem) and Joe Zakas (R-Granger).

Previously, state law only allowed for the swab to be taken after a felony conviction. The sample will now be taken when the suspect’s fingerprints, photographs and other data are documented during the booking process.

The DNA profile will be run through the state’s Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) and compared to other profiles in the database, only after a finding of probable cause.

If an individual is acquitted of all felony charges, the charges are lowered to a misdemeanor, or no charges are filed after one-year, the sample may be expunged."

Your actually given a form to send in and have the DNA removed from the database should the circumstances work in your favor. This is given at booking.

 

[dugsagun]

And we all know how well the government gets rid of stuff it wants to keep. I am sure theirs no secret data base with everyones name on it that has purchased a gun as that would be illegal. Hopefully some noob at the secret warehouse of all the information their not supposed to have spills coffee on the sample and renders it unusable.

 

[OutdoorDad]

Yes.
That's why you should have to be convicted first.

And exhausted all appeals.