Do "Conservatives" Really Want What They Are Getting?

[foszoe]

I do agree, incest and rape is an outlier (< 2%). However the new law specifically does not make exceptions for these special cases. And since this is true, why not make the exception? I noticed you mentioned the case of sex outside of marriage. While I was not as moral as some, I did have sex before marriage and took my own responsibility to stop an unwanted pregnancy ( I feel sad saying those words). The thing that I found interesting was 25% of abortions occurred within a marriage. I personally cannot fathom my wife having an abortion, I have 5 children, but certainly you can imagine a situation and the deliberation that comes with it. As for a gestating life, as I mention the Bible is very clear on this matter (see Ezekiel 37 and exodus 21). Breathing life is more valuable than a fetus. While I know that sound harsh and doesn't reflect my moral choices, you have to be guided by the light of that sacred book. Every other religious comment about it is simply a personal interpretation of a given moral law. While it is OK to be pious beyond stated norms, what you are saying isn't biblical. Ask a honest religious scholar when life begins. Adam: first breath, Eve: first breath, the kid next door: first breath. As I stated before, I lack the wisdom to make such laws. If put in Abbotts situation, I dont know what I would do. I would be a servant of the people and my personal feelings shouldn't exempt the majority unless in certain cases imho. If put in a situation of my own making, I would have to reflect long and hard and would do everything in my power to convince the mother to have the child and relinquish her rights.

In Hebrew the same word is translated breath or spirit.

In the Greek, it's a similar use.

For Adam, it is breath and the spirit of God etc etc.
In Creation, it is the Spirit of God moving upon the Waters, but could also be Breath of God.

A translation can go either way with the root word in Greek or Hebrew so context would play a role in deciding.

In 1 Cor 15:8 Paul calls himself an abortion. Using that word and referring back to the old testament, see Numbers 12:12, Job 3:16, and Ec 6:3 for passages that more appropriately address abortion. Nu 12:12 is probably the most specific.

On phone so can't get into much more now.

 

[jake blue]

Apparently the Catholics believe that way also?

Just ask Joe and Nancy...

No, the Catholic Church does NOT believe that way which is why they've banned Biden and Pelosi from receiving communion (which is a much bigger deal in Catholicism than Protestantism) and have been contemplating further censures or restrictions on them both but it's a politically fine line.

 

[KG1]

Exodus 21 would actually lead me to believe the opposite of what he was saying; there is value in the unborn.

The Ez. 37 was just out of context.

That's the way I see it. In Exodus 21: 22-24 it says that there are severe penalties for harming the unborn.

 

[JeepHammer]

When someone can't explain what they are thinking,
Then you have to assume they AREN'T THINKING, at least for themselves.

This post/replies pretty much proves that.

 

[buckwacker]

When someone can't explain what they are thinking,
Then you have to assume they AREN'T THINKING, at least for themselves.

This post/replies pretty much proves that.

Look in here.

 

[NKBJ]

And we can't forget that it is literally being deemed a satanic ritual, as if things in 2021 couldn't be more out in the open.

This is indeed the new age, the "externalization of the hierarchy".
You have to love it when they tell you their plans ahead of time.

 

[phylodog]

When someone can't explain what they are thinking,
Then you have to assume they AREN'T THINKING, at least for themselves.

This post/replies pretty much proves that.

Your side has control of the country. You are getting what you want yet still want to blame conservatives for the epic **** show this country has become.


Thanks for the clown shoes but they don’t fit very well.

 

[BugI02]

In the case of incest or rape how can killing the child be right?

I don't think he believes it actually is a child, nor that an acorn contains a mighty oak

 

[NKBJ]

I don't think he believes it actually is a child, nor that an acorn contains a mighty oak

Yep, understood.

 

[JettaKnight]

To be clear, I dont think abortion is right. Neither is the Bible saying it is. What the Bible does say is that life starts at first breath. Obviously technology has reduced that. If it is possible for a child to live at 25 weeks, then no abortion after week 25.

I'm not a fan of technology determining morality.

 

[BugI02]

I 'm not a fan of technology de determining morality.

Matthew 5:18

How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look
Some say it's just a part of it
We have to fulfill the book

---- Mr Bob Marley, Redemption Song

 

[Tombs]

 

[phylodog]

At least the guy is honest about it.

 

[NKBJ]

Listening to a live show, talking about billionaires financing the social revolution.
Just heard the show host say we need communism for billionaires.
To strip them down to their under ware.

Gentlemen, we live in wild times.

 

[Tombs]

Listening to a live show, talking about billionaires financing the social revolution.
Just heard the show host say we need communism for billionaires.
To strip them down to their under ware.

Gentlemen, we live in wild times.

What I find most curious is, it's always billionaires funding these things.

 

[buckwacker]

What I find most curious is, it's always billionaires funding these things.

There were communist "billionaires". It's always those at the very top of the commie heap who economically rape and pillage their populace in the name of equity. These people are no different.

 

[manifest destiny]

"Post-birth abortion". If you're a pro-choice absolutist, ask yourself if those words are ok.
Governor Northram, a pediatric doctor, believes in post-birth abortion. Sick.

 

[NKBJ]

What I find most curious is, it's always billionaires funding these things.

Ever think that some of these people are fronts?

 

[Ziggidy]

I have just used the ignore button for the very first time.......Thanks JeepHammer for letting me see how well it works.

 

[Cozy439]

"Post-birth abortion". If you're a pro-choice absolutist, ask yourself if those words are ok.
Governor Northram, a pediatric doctor, believes in post-birth abortion. Sick.

So they ARE FOR the death penalty?