Do you think the feds keep 4473 info?

[turnandshoot4]

Why or why not?

I'll start. I say they do. Why would any data freely given be thrown away? Furthermore, if the feds will spy on Americans while violating the 4th amendment and lie to the Senate intelligence committee they will likely violate these laws.

 

[45fan]

Why or why not?

I'll start. I say they do. Why would any data freely given be thrown away? Furthermore, if the feds will spy on Americans while violating the 4th amendment and lie to the Senate intelligence committee they will likely violate these laws.

The gun shop keeps that info, until such time they close up shop, and then its taken over by the feds. As long as a gun shop has control, the feds have all the access they need, and no wasted manpower housing the records. I do not know if they retain the info as it is called in, but I am sure that it wouldnt be far fetched at all to think they did.

 

[turnandshoot4]

Possum, care to share why you think they don't keep the info?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

[h=2]Do you think the feds keep 4473 info?[/h]

Why or why not?​

Yes, the feds keep 4473s. They are scanned in and stored digitally in West Virginia.

Why? Because the ATF told us that this is what they do in 1995. No one but me cares.

 

[Leo]

The gun shop keeps that info, until such time they close up shop, and then its taken over by the feds. As long as a gun shop has control, the feds have all the access they need, and no wasted manpower housing the records. I do not know if they retain the info as it is called in, but I am sure that it wouldnt be far fetched at all to think they did.

This is correct. Even though it has been against the law since the NICS was started.

 

[BogWalker]

Yes, the feds keep 4473s. They are scanned in and stored digitally in West Virginia.

Why? Because the ATF told us that this is what they do in 1995. No one but me cares.

Seriously? Definitely something I think I'd like more information on, or do you just not do purple?

 

[turnandshoot4]

Yes, the feds keep 4473s. They are scanned in and stored digitally in West Virginia.

Why? Because the ATF told us that this is what they do in 1995. No one but me cares.

How can we do something about this?

 

[IndyGunworks]

I thought it was common knowledge that the feds keep all the records after the gunshop closes.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Seriously? Definitely something I think I'd like more information on, or do you just not do purple?

Feds scan in 4473s and create a database of gun owners and the guns that they have purchased. Not just from closed gun shops but also programs for "assault rifles", e.g. "Operation Forward Trace".

I have discussed it on INGO before. ATF admitted this in 1995 on national television.

 

[Coach]

Why bother with them if they were not keeping them on file? I cannot believe there are people that have doubts.

 

[turnandshoot4]

Feds scan in 4473s and create a database of gun owners and the guns that they have purchased. Not just from closed gun shops but also programs for "assault rifles", e.g. "Operation Forward Trace".

I have discussed it on INGO before. ATF admitted this in 1995 on national television.

Isn't it illegal to create a national database?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

sn't it illegal to create a national database?

Yes.

 

[IndyGunworks]

Wonder why the NRA hasn't sued.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Wonder why the NRA hasn't sued.

You are not alone.

 

[IndyGunworks]

Maybe I should be the loud mouth that during one of the speeches yells this at the top of their lungs until they get escorted out.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Wonder why the NRA hasn't sued.

You are not alone.

Because Harry Reid supports them

 

[tv1217]

Possum is pretty naive...or a BATFE plant

 

[williamsburg]

Yes, the feds keep 4473s. They are scanned in and stored digitally in West Virginia.

Why? Because the ATF told us that this is what they do in 1995. No one but me cares.

They also require dealers to keep their records for 20 years. And if the dealers do not want to keep them, they must surrender the files to the ATF.

But they only hold onto it for 20 years. And do not permanently store anything.

 

[possum_128]

In my defense I clicked the wrong one, oops.

 

[tv1217]

In my defense I clicked the wrong one, oops.