Doctors target gun violence as a social disease

[looney2ns]

My Way News - Doctors target gun violence as a social disease

 

[Jack Burton]

Doctor mistakes kill far more people a year than guns.

 

[foszoe]

Doctor mistakes kill far more people a year than guns.

I would love to see the statistics behind this claim because I so want to be right before quoting you

 

[Guardsman89]

Center for the Prevention of the Violent Use of Hands

They report "About 9 percent of all violent crimes involve a gun - roughly 338,000 cases each year." So let's say we completely eliminate guns. What about the other 91% of cases that don't involve a gun? Most violent crimes probably do not involve any weapon beyond hands and fists. I think we should start a Center for the Prevention of the Violent Use of Hands because obviously hand to hand violence is a social disease. Maybe we could start tying everyone's hands to their sides or better yet forced amputation for anyone with suspected violent tendencies. Govenrment funded researchers can come up with a formula to decide who needs their hands cut off! Anyone want to help me write up the grant proposal?

 

[long coat]

I would love to see the statistics behind this claim because I so want to be right before quoting you

In Hospital Deaths from Medical Errors at 195,000 per Year USA
An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors in each of the years 2000, 2001 and 2002,

Errors kill 15,000 aged patients a month: study | Reuters
(Reuters) - Mistakes and unavoidable problems kill an estimated 15,000 elderly U.S. patients every month in hospitals, U.S. government investigators reported on Tuesday.

How many gun deaths are in the US every year
Per the Center for Disease Control, latest figures (2005) show 30,694 firearm deaths (all races, all ages, both sexes) in the US.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Another angle, same goal...progressives never rest.

 

[MTC]

Doctors target gun violence as a social disease

And in other news, Americans countertarget attempts to attack and undermine the RKBA (by "experts" cloaking it as a "consumer product safety" or "public health" issue needing [governmental and/or bureaucratic] "oversight" in the form of additional restrictions according to their recommendations, of course) as part of the mutated social(ist) disease that it is.

Another angle, same goal...progressives never rest.

 

[tatertot]

I have a retort for the doctors:

Tatertot views liberalism as a social disease.

 

[Jack Burton]

In Hospital Deaths from Medical Errors at 195,000 per Year USA
An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors in each of the years 2000, 2001 and 2002,

Errors kill 15,000 aged patients a month: study | Reuters
(Reuters) - Mistakes and unavoidable problems kill an estimated 15,000 elderly U.S. patients every month in hospitals, U.S. government investigators reported on Tuesday.

How many gun deaths are in the US every year
Per the Center for Disease Control, latest figures (2005) show 30,694 firearm deaths (all races, all ages, both sexes) in the US.

Thank you...

 

[Mackey]

My Way News - Doctors target gun violence as a social disease

The tendency for gun owners and gun rights advocates is to immediately criticize a story like this. But honestly, don't you think there are things that could be done in our society to decrease injury and death from guns? We can fully support the 2A but still advocate gun safety and education.

Sure, I know that gun grabbers will hide behind movements like this to try to severely restrict gun ownership. We can never let our guard down. But I think we tend to have knee jerk reactions to things like this.

Go here to see some meany making fun of Twitchy:
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2012/03/03/james-yeager-parody-video/

 

[theweakerbrother]

I thought crabs was a social disease. Barring that, the clap?

 

[DragonGunner]

About 30,000 deaths a year by firearms....but notice about 18,000 of those are from suicide.
Gunsafe fact sheet

 

[Jack Burton]

The tendency for gun owners and gun rights advocates is to immediately criticize a story like this. But honestly, don't you think there are things that could be done in our society to decrease injury and death from guns? We can fully support the 2A but still advocate gun safety and education.

Sure, I know that gun grabbers will hide behind movements like this to try to severely restrict gun ownership. We can never let our guard down. But I think we tend to have knee jerk reactions to things like this.

Go here to see some meany making fun of Twitchy:
James Yeager Parody Video

Gun grabbers don't "hide" behind movements like this. Gun grabbers ARE movements like this. Virtually every study proposed or done along these lines have the fingerprints of the Joyce Foundation behind them, which is outspoken in their desire to do away with all guns.

Doctors are not interested in "controlling" small pox. They eradicated it. Doctors are not interested in "controlling" polio. They eradicated it.

You can go down a long line of "social diseases" that have been eliminated through prophylactic treatments and other methods. What makes you believe that the "social disease" of guns is not desired to be eliminated also?

 

[Stschil]

Gun grabbers don't "hide" behind movements like this. Gun grabbers ARE movements like this. Virtually every study proposed or done along these lines have the fingerprints of the Joyce Foundation behind them, which is outspoken in their desire to do away with all guns.

Doctors are not interested in "controlling" small pox. They eradicated it. Doctors are not interested in "controlling" polio. They eradicated it.

You can go down a long line of "social diseases" that have been eliminated through prophylactic treatments and other methods. What makes you believe that the "social disease" of guns is not desired to be eliminated also?

So youre saying that if we wear a prophylactic while carrying/usng our guns we'll be safe?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Gun grabbers don't "hide" behind movements like this. Gun grabbers ARE movements like this. Virtually every study proposed or done along these lines have the fingerprints of the Joyce Foundation behind them, which is outspoken in their desire to do away with all guns.

Doctors are not interested in "controlling" small pox. They eradicated it. Doctors are not interested in "controlling" polio. They eradicated it.

You can go down a long line of "social diseases" that have been eliminated through prophylactic treatments and other methods. What makes you believe that the "social disease" of guns is not desired to be eliminated also?

 

[MTC]

The tendency for gun owners and gun rights advocates is to immediately criticize a story like this. But honestly, don't you think there are things that could be done in our society to decrease injury and death from guns? We can fully support the 2A but still advocate gun safety and education.

Sure, I know that gun grabbers will hide behind movements like this to try to severely restrict gun ownership. We can never let our guard down. But I think we tend to have knee jerk reactions to things like this.

For some of us who have been keeping abreast of RKBA issues for, say, at least the last 20 years (longer for others here), the names Wintemute and Satcher are not new, nor their "work" unknown. As some of their like-minded fellow travellers said years ago, a primary goal was "the eradication of the gun culture".

Gun grabbers don't "hide" behind movements like this. Gun grabbers ARE movements like this. Virtually every study proposed or done along these lines have the fingerprints of the Joyce Foundation behind them, which is outspoken in their desire to do away with all guns.

Doctors are not interested in "controlling" small pox. They eradicated it. Doctors are not interested in "controlling" polio. They eradicated it.

You can go down a long line of "social diseases" that have been eliminated through prophylactic treatments and other methods. What makes you believe that the "social disease" of guns is not desired to be eliminated also?

Nailed.

 

[ghuns]

About 30,000 deaths a year by firearms....but notice about 18,000 of those are from suicide.
Gunsafe fact sheet

That leaves about 12K-14K non-suicide deaths per year. These are not all murders. Some are civilian self defense and some are LEO shootings. Good luck finding a realist number for that category but lets just call it about 2K-4K. If you take those out, you are left with what could be called a "social disease". The symptoms of the disease are violent felons walking our streets, children with no positive role models in their lives, and a failed drug war. I would be quite happy if our medical professionals could eradicate any of these.

This website has some great info...
GunCite: Gun Control - Gun Homicides

Of particular interest to many INGO's
...

[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Indianapolis/Marion County - Homicide review conducted from 1997 thru mid-1998. Victims and suspects were chronic offenders.
Among homicide suspects:

• 75% had either an adult or juvenile criminal record.
• An average of 3.7 adult arrests.
• Those with a prior record averaged 6 adult arrests and 5.5 juvenile arrests.

Among homicide victims:

• 63% had adult or juvenile criminal records.
• An average of 4.6 adult arrests.
• Those with a prior record averaged 8 adult arrests and 4.5 juvenile arrests.
• For the 206 suspects and victims:
  • 1600 total arrests
  • 500 arrests for violent crimes
  • 800 convictions
• 53% of homicide incidents were drug-related

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[Jack Burton]

So youre saying that if we wear a prophylactic while carrying/usng our guns we'll be safe?

One of these days I am going to finish my article comparing the 2nd Amendment and America's potential loss of freedom without it to the job of a condom and its relationship to the clap. That should shake some people up.

 

[sharkey]

So youre saying that if we wear a prophylactic while carrying/usng our guns we'll be safe?

Why did I hear, in the back of my mind, Stan say, "Somebody needs to help Timmy put his condom on" when I read that?

 

[SmileDocHill]

"Unlike almost all other consumer products, there is no national product safety oversight of firearms," he wrote in the Wisconsin Medical Journal

From the link supplied in the OP.

Product safety oversight!?!?!? This is the same mentality that will cause a gun to come with so many safety warnings on it the lettering will replace the need for stippling on the grips. Guns are dangerous, if you don't get that you are not going to live long as a result of your brains shortcomings eventually anyway.