Draco questions/opinions needed.

[45pro]

Ultimak is too expensive for me to be destroying. I'll use the $60 UTG one first

that UTG one is the same one i have on my draco, fits perfectly, and best of all the rail covers dont say UTG on them from where i got it.

O ya and i picked mine up for only 36.99

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[Stainer]

that UTG one is the same one i have on my draco, fits perfectly, and best of all the rail covers dont say UTG on them from where i got it.

O ya and i picked mine up for only 36.99

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Problem is they are $69.99 now. Wish I could have got in on that deal...

 

[45pro]

Problem is they are $69.99 now. Wish I could have got in on that deal...

hey, you snooze you lose, i posted a thread about it when they were on sale. haha


i'll sell you mine for $50




j/k

 

[Stainer]

hey, you snooze you lose, i posted a thread about it when they were on sale. haha


i'll sell you mine for $50




j/k

I did not own my draco then, or I would have. And you are evil! If you do end up wanting to sell it, I will take it.

 

[45pro]

I did not own my draco then, or I would have. And you are evil! If you do end up wanting to sell it, I will take it.

In a week or two i will be putting my draco up for sale, with all the goodies on it +ammo if i dont shoot it all up by then. I'm still trying to figure up a price, i've put more than $800 in it including the gun, i know i cant get that much out of it so, maybe somewhere in the 6's i'm thinking depending on how much the gun itself is going for now....

I picked mine up for $329 new back in Dec.

 

[Stainer]

In a week or two i will be putting my draco up for sale, with all the goodies on it +ammo if i dont shoot it all up by then. I'm still trying to figure up a price, i've put more than $800 in it including the gun, i know i cant get that much out of it so, maybe somewhere in the 6's i'm thinking depending on how much the gun itself is going for now....

I picked mine up for $329 back in Dec.

Well I don't want the whole gun, I just want the UTG rail.

 

[45pro]

i know, if the gun wont sell as a whole, i may part it out and turn the gun back to stock and sell it off that way. I'll let you know if it comes to that.

 

[Stainer]

Awesome, hate to say this, but I hope it doesn't sell!

 

[MattCFII]

If you part it out, I'll then take the gun closer to stock.

 

[Stainer]

Looks like you have a three way deal on your gun. If the price was right I would take your hogue grip, rails, and ace side folding mechanism. Maybe the stock too. MattCFII buy iut and I will buy the other parts from you for a reasonable price.

 

[MattCFII]

I can roll with that. I don't need the railed handguard, Magpul stock, vertical grip. I could use but don't have to take the grip or folding mech if it makes the deal happen and my price cheaper

 

[japartridge]

I ordered mine from J and G sales out of Arizona. Last time I checked they had gone backorder since I got mine, but keep an eye on them. It was just shy of $450 with shipping. I have not found anyone who make a rail for the mini so I will be taking one and doing some cutting to make it work. Good thing is, I have time because my paper work is still at the CCB waiting to get signed, then another few months at the BATFE and then it will be ready to rock and roll!

Yeah, I saw that J&G was out of stock... grr... I'll just have to bide my time...and then I can see what you do to yours to know what to use, or not to use depending on how it turns out!

Looking forward to seeing your Mini SBR'ed!

 

[MilitaryArms]

Just do it. I had my Draco SBR I reviewed at the Indy 1500 this weekend at the INGO booth. It's the best SBR gun I've ever built. It's not only a breeze to do yourself, but the rifle is super cool being a shorty AK.

 

[Stainer]

Looking forward to seeing your Mini SBR'ed!

Me Too! in a few months..... As soon as I get it all assembled I will post it up here for INGO's enjoyment!

 

[45pro]

Looks like you have a three way deal on your gun. If the price was right I would take your hogue grip, rails, and ace side folding mechanism. Maybe the stock too. MattCFII buy iut and I will buy the other parts from you for a reasonable price.

Ok guys i'll get some prices figured up and let you know what they are in the next few days.

O...BTW...the ace folding mechanism with stock cannot be removed from the gun.

Once a rifle always a rifle. It cannot be turned back into a pistol.

 

[MattCFII]

I thought the rule is that once you have a "rifle" the gun can never be under 16" barrel nor under 26" OAL without the SBR tax stamp. I think you can technically have a pistol gripped rifle like shotguns, it's just that it is far less useful not to have a stock on a rifle. Anybody else know for sure?

 

[japartridge]

I thought the rule is that once you have a "rifle" the gun can never be under 16" barrel nor under 26" OAL without the SBR tax stamp. I think you can technically have a pistol gripped rifle like shotguns, it's just that it is far less useful not to have a stock on a rifle. Anybody else know for sure?

Once you attach a stock to a pistol, it is an SBR. If you have a rifle and "make" the barrel shorter than 16", it's an SBR.... is this what you were asking?

Also there is a good chance if you pistol grip your rifle without a buttstock, you will run afoul of the OAL rule...


Anyone else more knowledgeable on this, please chime in.

 

[Stainer]

Yeah good call, I'm almost 100% positive once a pistol is made a rifle you cannot make it back to a pistol. So if matt were to buy it, he would have to keep the stock and muzzle device on it to keep it in rifle specs. I would still buy your grip and rails from you.

 

[MattCFII]

Once you attach a stock to a pistol, it is an SBR. If you have a rifle and "make" the barrel shorter than 16", it's an SBR.... is this what you were asking?

Also there is a good chance if you pistol grip your rifle without a buttstock, you will run afoul of the OAL rule...


Anyone else more knowledgeable on this, please chime in.

But he made it into a rifle first with the barrel extension. Basically if it really is that way it puts you into a legal catch22 anytime you change out a stock on a rifle or put it on the first time you have an unregistered SBR for that time period.

Yes you definitely have to be careful with the OAL rule but on AKs I believe you be okay if you had a 16" barrel. The receiver ends about 27-28" IIRC.

Yeah good call, I'm almost 100% positive once a pistol is made a rifle you cannot make it back to a pistol. So if matt were to buy it, he would have to keep the stock and muzzle device on it to keep it in rifle specs. I would still buy your grip and rails from you.

I'm pretty sure (but definitely not 100% and still want some one else to chime in) that it becomes a rifle the moment you go over 16" barrel and 26 OAL" regardless of of the buttstock configuration. Kinda like how shotguns can be pistol gripped if they meet barrel and OAL minimums.

 

[Stainer]

Right, it would be considered a rifle. If your overall and barrel length are still ok, then I think you would be good.