Drug test to attend homecoming dance?

[KLB]

Nope, just a ruling that said abortion was legal, but you knew that…

No. The ruling said that making it illegal was unconstitutional. That made all of the state laws unconstitutional, which is a very different thing than the feds saying Marijuana is a schedule 1 drug, while states say it is legal to use.

 

[KLB]

I think that is the libertarian view, except they want is sold in stores next to Nyquil and let the "free market" decide if it is safe

Safe? You can buy lots of things that are not safe. Why should the government restrict some but not others?

 

[nonobaddog]

Safe? You can buy lots of things that are not safe. Why should the government restrict some but not others?

Why indeed. Why do they prosecute some criminals and not others? Why do they send the FBI and IRS after some people and not others? Why do they fire some people for not getting vaccinated while allowing millions to come into the country without?

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Safe? You can buy lots of things that are not safe. Why should the government restrict some but not others?

Yep, including nyquil if it isn't used properly (and sometimes if it is).

 

[Destro]

Safe? You can buy lots of things that are not safe. Why should the government restrict some but not others?

Why should the government restrict anything? Where is the line?

 

[JettaKnight]

Safe? You can buy lots of things that are not safe. Why should the government restrict some but not others?

So we wanted FDA restrictions on vaccines, but now we don't want any restrictions?

 

[Ingomike]

That made all of the state laws unconstitutional,

It made enforcement unconstitutional not the law say it was illegal, as evidenced by the states that had laws in place when the court reversed its ruling…

 

[Ingomike]

So we wanted FDA restrictions on vaccines, but now we don't want any restrictions?

You really struggle with math and putting two and two together. We wanted government to follow their own rules and that is independent of government restrictions…

 

[JettaKnight]

Welcome to the new world public education indoctrination.

So it's indoctrination to tell kids drugs are bad? (Mmmkay)

If so, I'm all for it no matter what you call it.

 

[Destro]

So we wanted FDA restrictions on vaccines, but now we don't want any restrictions?

Shouldn't there be no restrictions on vaccines? Then people can make make their own decisions about the vaccine they buy.

Vaccines that people don't like won't succeed in the market, vaccines that people like will make it.

I'm going to add RIT dye to the vaccines I make at home so the look more colorful.

 

[Creedmoor]

No. The ruling said that making it illegal was unconstitutional. That made all of the state laws unconstitutional.

Unconstitutional, lol. That depends on which party controls the Supreme Court.

 

[nonobaddog]

Judges have become political stooges. We ain't gonna make it long-term peacefully.

 

[hoosierdoc]

I wonder what their issue is with the bill. I skimmed over it. There is a lot about testing different versions of fentanyl, which I am not clear as to why we need a bill for. Then there is making it a schedule 1 drug permanently, which I am surprised it isn't already.

I wonder if he has reached out to the Ds to see what their issue is, or if this is another pure political stunt.

Fentanyl is the most common pain medication we order in our ER, and it seems all EMS crews carry it. So to claim there is no medical use for it is ridiculous, which is a component of making something schedule I

I am not a huge fan of it for pain control because it doesn't last very long. Morphine or Dilaudid hang around better but cause more hypotension and allergy reactions. Fentanyl being synthetic helps against those.

 

[Creedmoor]

Fentanyl is the most common pain medication we order in our ER, and it seems all EMS crews carry it. So to claim there is no medical use for it is ridiculous, which is a component of making something schedule I

I am not a huge fan of it for pain control because it doesn't last very long. Morphine or Dilaudid hang around better but cause more hypotension and allergy reactions. Fentanyl being synthetic helps against those.

Thats a bit frightening, its not like Fentanyl is something new. What has fueled the change to use it now?

 

[nonobaddog]

It said there are up to 4,800 analogs to fentanyl so if they make one drug illegal, china just changes the precursor compounds a little and legally ships it to mexico for processing and smuggling into the US.


(Smuggling used to be risky and difficult. We need a new word for it now since it is so easy with all the alien traffic coming into the US. Maybe "bringing" is more appropriate than smuggling.)

 

[hoosierdoc]

Thats a bit frightening, its not like Fentanyl is something new. What has fueled the change to use it now?

Morphine causes a lot of itching, nausea, and drops in blood pressure. Fentanyl really is very clean as far as side effects and interactions. But it's not uncommon to see EMS give max approved prehospital dose to elderly patients who now need oxygen for an hour or two.

It's also great to give nasally to kids for pain control or mild sedation before procedures.

 

[Creedmoor]

Morphine causes a lot of itching, nausea, and drops in blood pressure. Fentanyl really is very clean as far as side effects and interactions. But it's not uncommon to see give max approved prehospital dose to elderly patients who now need oxygen for an hour or two.

It's also great to give nasally to kids for pain control or mild sedation before procedures.

Thanks.

 

[Twangbanger]

Morphine causes a lot of itching, nausea, and drops in blood pressure. Fentanyl really is very clean as far as side effects and interactions. But it's not uncommon to see EMS give max approved prehospital dose to elderly patients who now need oxygen for an hour or two.

It's also great to give nasally to kids for pain control or mild sedation before procedures.

Heck, you might want to give it to them nasally before the dance...

 

[KLB]

Fentanyl is the most common pain medication we order in our ER, and it seems all EMS crews carry it. So to claim there is no medical use for it is ridiculous, which is a component of making something schedule I

I am not a huge fan of it for pain control because it doesn't last very long. Morphine or Dilaudid hang around better but cause more hypotension and allergy reactions. Fentanyl being synthetic helps against those.

So you are against that bill too?

 

[KLB]

So we wanted FDA restrictions on vaccines, but now we don't want any restrictions?

First, restrictions? People wanted it to go through the same approval procedure the vast majority of other drugs do.

Second, where is anyone trying to make everyone take fentanyl?