Dublin Systems Side Charging AK ?

[smitty12b]

Since the topic was brought up concerning AR's I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this. It looks like a pretty good idea and allows you to keep your side-mounted scope setup.
AK Ratchet Charging

 

[shooter521]

Cutting a slot down the length of the gas tube has got to compromise its structural integrity, not to mention allowing all manner of crud to get in. Plus, you know how hot that area gets under rapid fire... last thing I'd want to do is touch something coming off the gas piston in order to charge the gun. Plus, now you've got a charging handle reciprocating back and forth just an inch or two above where you are going to put your support hand; that's an owie waiting to happen.

FAIL.

 

[smitty12b]

He addresses the heat questions here

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0Yw-aaKYOs"]YouTube - Ratchet Charging System pt. 2[/ame]

and in this one he buries it in sand

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/10/22/ratchet-charging-system-for-ak-rifles/

my only worry is getting smacked by the CH, but I haven't gotten bitten by a HK yet so, not sure.

 

[Spot Me 2]

If it aint broke, don't fix it.

I see many broken thumbs or thumbs with tips missing from this poor design.

FAIL!!!!!

 

[smitty12b]

If it aint broke, don't fix it.

I see many broken thumbs or thumbs with tips missing from this poor design.

FAIL!!!!!

If that were true, most HK owners would be
sporting 9 fingers but it is a concern for me as well.

 

[Zephri]

If it aint broke, don't fix it.

I see many broken thumbs or thumbs with tips missing from this poor design.

FAIL!!!!!

Can you prove it?

 

[shooter521]

If that were true, most HK owners would be
sporting 9 fingers but it is a concern for me as well.

The charging handle on the G3 and MP5 is non-reciprocating, isn't it?

 

[smitty12b]

The charging handle on the G3 and MP5 is non-reciprocating, isn't it?

That I do not know, it does on my clone though. I guess I can install a VG or get a romy banana grip and then it won't be an issue..

 

[Spot Me 2]

Can you prove it?

Sure, I'll buy the conversion and let you shoot it with your thumb in the way 5 or 6 times. I will even video it so we can show all of INGO the proof.
Let me know when your ready to do this!!!

 

[samot]

Uhh dude,, if the charging handle even moves on your HK clone while your shooting it YOU NEED TO STOP SHOOTING IT !!!!
Somethings wrong, & im not even sure what it is.
First, what kind of clone is it ????

 

[smitty12b]

Sure, I'll buy the conversion and let you shoot it with your thumb in the way 5 or 6 times. I will even video it so we can show all of INGO the proof.
Let me know when your ready to do this!!!

Do you have experience with weapons that have this design? If so please show us what has happened to you or those you know and share the experience.

 

[smitty12b]

Uhh dude,, if the charging handle even moves on your HK clone while your shooting it YOU NEED TO STOP SHOOTING IT !!!!
Somethings wrong, & im not even sure what it is.
First, what kind of clone is it ????

It's the 91 we talked about else where. I could have sworn that little bugger moved, but I could be wrong( and probably am) that isn't where my focus is while shooting.

 

[smitty12b]

Using the HK as a comparison was wrong on my part, let my HK ignorance flag fly high

 

[Spot Me 2]

Do you have experience with weapons that have this design? If so please show us what has happened to you or those you know and share the experience.

Don't need to. Commen sense says that if you put your thumb in the way your going to get hurt.
If you don't believe me, put your thumb in the receiver in your 91 and let the charging handle go. (Safety note: DON'T DO THIS, Your going to smash your thumb!)

 

[smitty12b]

Don't need to. Commen sense says that if you put your thumb in the way your going to get hurt.
If you don't believe me, put your thumb in the receiver in your 91 and let the charging handle go. (Safety note: DON'T DO THIS, Your going to smash your thumb!)

I agree the possibility is there(see my op) If that is the only worry a simple VG will remove the problem. It also seems to be at a little more upward angle than the HK charging handle.

Back to my original question, does anyone have any "experience" with one of these? opinions are great but I would like to know if anyone has used them. Also, the Magpul guys use a AK with left side charger but it is on the bolt, not the gas tube(you loose the side scope mount)

 

[samot]

It's the 91 we talked about else where. I could have sworn that little bugger moved, but I could be wrong( and probably am) that isn't where my focus is while shooting.

You need to be sure it moves, I honestly cant see it happening unless the cocking tube was welded to the carrier. But im sure stranger things have happened.
Soooooo, its either a Cetme or a PTR correct ????

 

[smitty12b]

You need to be sure it moves, I honestly cant see it happening unless the cocking tube was welded to the carrier. But im sure stranger things have happened.
Soooooo, its either a Cetme or a PTR correct ????

It's essentially a C93 with a Federal Arms receiver.

 

[samot]

It's essentially a C93 with a Federal Arms receiver.

Not that it matters but a C93 would be a .223 !!!!
You have a .308 a 91 correct ?
Regardless, take it out & shoot it & make sure your charging handle IS NOT moving (keep your hands out of the way) then get back with me & i will help you the best i know how

 

[Ogre]

Whats the benefit? just the fact your trigger hand stays put?

 

[smitty12b]

Whats the benefit? just the fact your trigger hand stays put?

That's the main attraction for me