Duplicating Hornady .223 75g 8026

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  • Notalentbum

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    I have found that this ammo is a perfect match for my Savage bolt rifle. I’d like to duplicate it as it generally runs around $.80-$1 per round.
    I’ve shot enough of it to have a supply of cases. The projectiles are easy enough to get but I have no idea what powder or primer Hornady is using. I could pull a few apart and get an approximation of how much powder is being used.
    Would Hornady give out this information if I asked nicely or this something they don’t share?
    Anyone else know?

    Thanks, Matt
     

    natdscott

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    Would Hornady give out this information if I asked nicely or this something they don’t share?
    Anyone else know?

    Thanks, Matt

    No, they will not give that information out, but you don't need it either.

    I will get you the numbers for Reloder-15 tonight. I've done that load before, +/- about 5 fps.

    In the mean time, go over to Grafs and get a few hundred Lake City casings (new, NO pull-down) on order. While they still have them.

    -Nate
     

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    No, they will not give that information out, but you don't need it either.

    I will get you the numbers for Reloder-15 tonight. I've done that load before, +/- about 5 fps.

    In the mean time, go over to Grafs and get a few hundred Lake City casings (new, NO pull-down) on order. While they still have them.

    -Nate

    You must have bought the last of them. New Lake City brass shows out of stock.
    I look forward to your numbers. I’ve never used Reloader powders yet but this is worth buying a pound or 8.

    Thanks, Matt
     

    natdscott

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    Ah shoot.

    Sorry...3 day delay.

    Yeah, looks like all the LC is gone for now. I am shooting a batch right now that shows pretty good promise..something along the lines of 1/2 Minute without much prep.


    So, on review, here's what I did with the 75 BTHP Hornady Ammo:

    Factory
    20" 7.7" Twist speed average was 2,686 fps;
    16" 7.7" Twist speed average was 2,505 fps;

    My clone load ended up being:
    ..
     

    Notalentbum

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    My best group was .41moa with the factory 8026 loads. The others weren’t bad but they were all me. I could tell I was shaking more and sight picture was not solid. Got worse as day went on.

    Matt
     

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    The load, at long last, ended up being

    23.6 grains RE15
    2.255"
    Remington 7.5BR

    Easy things you should do are, in order:

    At 100 yards:
    --test charge from probably 23.5 to 24.0 grains in 0.1 grain increments, then, on the best of those,
    --test seating depth from 2.235" to 2.255" in ~0.007" movements, then, on the best of those,

    On a calmer day, or over flags, and at 300 yards or further,
    --try both the BR4 primer and the Remington 7.5 BR primers to see which one gives you tighter groups and specifically vertical.

    I run 77 Sierra almost always at 23.8-23.9, but the Hornady seemed to prefer a little less.

    Following the above, you should be able to find a load that will shoot in the 2's or 3's pretty easily.

    Have fun and don't blow yourself up!
     

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