FFL Question

[45 LongColt]

Ok, I decided to buy a new rifle from a well known gun shop. I walked in found the rifle I wanted and went to the checkout guy. He added everything up, told me how much, I paid him and he said "thank you sir" and walked away. No 4473 to fill out or anything. Did they change the laws? I thought you had to fill out a 4473 on ANY firearm.

 

[hopper68]

Blackpowder?

 

[Mgderf]

Must be.
Black powder firearms are not considered firearms by the BATFE.
They can be mailed to your front door, no 4473 needed.

 

[Ithaca45]

The only firearm you can buy like that is a muzzle loader that can't be converted into a regular rifle.

 

[45 LongColt]

No, it was a 223 caliber.

 

[Alpo]

Well, it looks like you are in possession of a firearm that has not been legally transferred.

There is a correct answer here.

 

[bulletsmith]

I'm thinking I'd be calling them or going back to make sure things get done correctly. Their FFL logs have to be accurate. nobody wins with this obvious mistake.

 

[45 LongColt]

Ok, thanks. I`ll be calling them Mon. morning.

 

[Cameramonkey]

OP, did the store have multiple people working? It sounds like everyone behind the counter made assumptions; The clerk assumed the checkout monkey would do the paperwork, and the monkey assumed the clerk had already done the paperwork and approved you.

Definitely stop back by with the rifle the next second they are open. No sense calling them, as you will still have to go back anyway to do the actual transfer.

Now if they say "dont worry about it, its fine." A follow up call to the feds might be in order.

 

[jd4320t]

Was this the first gun you ever bought at an FFL??

Seems very odd to me.

 

[indykid]

Not sure if this is still legal, but there was a time that I bought a rifle from a dealer that told me it was his personal firearm and not part of his store inventory. He said that is how he was able to sell it without the 4473 as it was not on his store's books.

 

[bulletsmith]

Legal? Possibly. Foolish on his part? For sure.

 

[Bennettjh]

Dang. Never heard of that before. Need to get back their ASAP with rifle to do 4473.

 

[17 squirrel]

Maybe it was a personally owned firearm the owner was selling.

 

[ATM]

Nothing illegal on the buyer's end but the FFL may be in violation.

 

[45 LongColt]

OP, did the store have multiple people working? It sounds like everyone behind the counter made assumptions; The clerk assumed the checkout monkey would do the paperwork, and the monkey assumed the clerk had already done the paperwork and approved you.

Definitely stop back by with the rifle the next second they are open. No sense calling them, as you will still have to go back anyway to do the actual transfer.
Yes, there were other people working. Going to call them Mon.

 

[45 LongColt]

Was this the first gun you ever bought at an FFL??

Seems very odd to me.

No, this was the fourth firearm I purchased from them. I think the guy was new for the holiday shopping crowd and it just slipped by him.

 

[45 LongColt]

Maybe it was a personally owned firearm the owner was selling.

Well, they never said it was personal stock. I don't know.

 

[45 LongColt]

I will post their answer after I call them Monday. They are not open Sundays.

 

[Fullmag]

Maybe it was a personally owned firearm the owner was selling.

Have bought a personally owned firearm before at gun shows. The owner declared that it was personally owned at the beginning of the the sale. Maybe that was part of the sales pitch.