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  • usmcdjb

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    Filling out the fingerprint cards for a form 4. What do they want for the following fields?


    Employer and address (is this me, or who did the fingerprints? It's right under his/her signature.)

    Reason for fingerprinting - would "ATF Form 4" suffice?

    Thanks for any help!
     

    mms

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    i think on the back of the fingerprint card it tells you that the employer info section is for the one taking your prints

    not your employer

    at least thats what i have done, i have also submitted them with that blank no problems
     

    revsaxon

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    Its for the cop fingerprinting you. That said if you leave it blank it won't make a lick of difference. Half mine have had it filled in, half have been blank and they all went thru no problem
     

    usmcdjb

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    Appreciate the input, though it seems there's some contention on what is supposed to be there. We'll see what happens.

    curraheeguns - do you have a link to that reference?
     

    Gamez235

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    This is correct.

    Per ATF website:

    1. Applicant’s Employer and Address of Employer


    This baffles me, according to the Instructions on FBI.gov for the form listed they are asking for the employer of the person taking the prints.? :dunno:

    I have a .pdf from fbi.gov that says the employer is of the person taking the prints.
     

    usmcdjb

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    Maybe a better question is:



    Where do I find information for the proper completion of all parts of the fingerprint card for an NFA purchase??



    I'm not sure even some of the other fields are intuitive since I have been looking around the Internet for answers.
     

    mjrducky

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    I've always just used my personal employment information and haven't had any issues.

    I asked the IMPD print folks and they told me that was what was needed.

    Everything on that print card is about me - except the one place the print person signs it.

    Again I have no idea if that is correct, but out of the 10+ times its been efffective 100%.

    Honestly I don't think anyone every looks at that box.
     
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    hotrodtba

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    Leaving it blank, putting your personal info, or the info of the person taking the prints. All are acceptable. I personally have always put the info of the person taking my prints, the local police department.
     

    usmcdjb

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    I emailed the ATF asking what needed filled in on the fingerprint card. Here is the reply I received. I have asked for clarification on Employer and Address, though combat45acp provided an excellent link!



    The following information needs to be completed on each FD-258.


    Name (Last, First Middle)
    Applicant Signature
    Residence of Applicant
    Official taking prints signature/date prints taken
    Employer and address (if applicable)
    Reason for prints
    DOB
    POB
    Sex/Race/Hgt/Wgt/Eyes/Hair
    Citizenship
    SS#
    Alien Registration or INS # if Non Us. Citizen


    If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
     

    hotrodtba

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    I emailed the ATF asking what needed filled in on the fingerprint card. Here is the reply I received. I have asked for clarification on Employer and Address, though combat45acp provided an excellent link!



    The following information needs to be completed on each FD-258.


    Name (Last, First Middle)
    Applicant Signature
    Residence of Applicant
    Official taking prints signature/date prints taken
    Employer and address (if applicable)
    Reason for prints
    DOB
    POB
    Sex/Race/Hgt/Wgt/Eyes/Hair
    Citizenship
    SS#
    Alien Registration or INS # if Non Us. Citizen


    If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.

    I think the fact that the employer and address is marked with "if applicable" would suggest that this only needs to be filled in if you are applying for a job and your potential employer requires fingerprints. As far as NFA applications are concerned, this would not apply.
     
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