FN five seven (banned?)

[Greenmonsta79]

Hey guys I am sure it is some bogus rumor but I heard the FN five seven was supposedly going to be banned? I heard all the hype was surrounding the Ft. Hood killer because he used one on his rampage, Anyway just wanted to know if anyone had heard anything and also if anyone has one how do you like it?
Thanks

 

[rimfire_crazed]

It's been on the hit list of gun control advocates almost since it's debut. The ammunition available to the general public is not the body armor piercing stuff that the armed forces use. I think if there is another AWB, it'll probably be targeted. I doubt FNH will fight it either since they have incredibly lucrative supply contracts with the federal government.

 

[Expat]

It's been on the hit list of gun control advocates almost since it's debut. The ammunition available to the general public is not the body armor piercing stuff that the armed forces use. I think if there is another AWB, it'll probably be targeted. I doubt FNH will fight it either since they have incredibly lucrative supply contracts with the federal government.

Sounds like Colt and how they rolled for AWB 1.

 

[khangoc]

people who own them should be banned. the round they use blow. If that shooter at the Ft. Hood shootings would've used a normal caliber i think he would've done tons more damage than he did. I'm glad he decided to pick up a FiveseveN and didnt do as much damage.

 

[rimfire_crazed]

people who own them should be banned. the round they use blow. If that shooter at the Ft. Hood shootings would've used a normal caliber i think he would've done tons more damage than he did. I'm glad he decided to pick up a FiveseveN and didnt do as much damage.

What???

 

[Greenmonsta79]

khangoc, quit drinking the bong water, you obviously have no clue about the gun so why spout off something ignorant?

 

[khangoc]

khangoc, quit drinking the bong water, you obviously have no clue about the gun so why spout off something ignorant?

I'm sorry, I had to Real world 5.7x28mm performance - AR15.COM

Please, read and fully understand the gun before judging it and my knowledge.

As you can see, real world evidence from real world event. The round was a softpoint! If he'd used a softpoint from anything other than the 5.7x28mm he would've done a lot more harm than he did. Not downplaying the lives lost. Just stating the truth behind the round. If you wanted a defensive round, you're better off w/ something else... if you want a round to poke holes in paper you're better off w/ something else.

 

[printcraft]

I'm sorry, I had to Real world 5.7x28mm performance - AR15.COM

Please, read and fully understand the gun before judging it and my knowledge.

I'm sorry, I had to = Counter point from the same thread..............

Myth Busting: .22 Magnum vs. 5.7×28mm | The Firearm Blog

 

[Walt_Jabsco]

people who own them should be banned. the round they use blow. If that shooter at the Ft. Hood shootings would've used a normal caliber i think he would've done tons more damage than he did. I'm glad he decided to pick up a FiveseveN and didnt do as much damage.

I'm sure nothing of the sort was meant, but this is a pretty offensive post. I don't really care how you feel about the 5.7 (although I agree with everyone else, you're clueless, as it is an excellent round, especially for submachine gun applications), but you're flippant attitude towards a mass shooting is entirely inappropriate. People saying things like this are what make people think all gun owners are sociopaths.

 

[alfahornet]

people who own them should be banned.

too bad I've no say in who gets banned.

It's actually a fairly effective round, no noticeable recoile and darn accurate. It is the only handgun I can consistently shoot at 50 yards and have decent groupings

 

[Wabatuckian]

The comparison comes from a 5.7 from a pistol as opposed to a .22WMR from a rifle.

In other words, a Five-Seven pistol and a 10/22 Magnum rifle will produce around the same results.

Not apples to apples.

 

[ghitch75]

i would soon carry my single-six in 17hmr than a 5 7....shame someone doesn't make a hi-cap semi-auto 17hmr pistol....

 

[khangoc]

I meant nothing flippant about the shooting. As I said, I do not want to degrade the seriousness of the event that happened. I'm jus merely showing how the weapon is ineffective.

Submachine gun w/ armor piercing rounds for mil... YES the round is effective. You have to understand the P90 was designed for that round specifically. The civie stuff even in a PS90 is just compromised and ineffective at what it's suppossed to do. They then adopt it into a handgun = more fail?

 

[shooter521]

you're clueless, as it is an excellent round, especially for submachine gun applications

FN 5.7 x 28 mm

The current 31 gr SS-190 FMJ bullet has nearly adequate penetration, but the wound resulting from this projectile has a relatively small permanent crush cavity, as well as an insignificant temporary stretch cavity. Although the 5.7 x 28 mm penetrates soft body armor, wounding potential is at best like a .22 LR or .22 Magnum. Even 9mm NATO FMJ makes a larger wound--and we are all aware of the awe inspiring incapacitation potential of M882 ball from the M9......

A few large U.S. LE agencies adopted 5.7 mm weapons--after being involved in several OIS incidents with P90's, 5.7 mm usage in these agencies plummeted as a result of the poor terminal performance.
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And for the OP - we've had several threads on the FN FiveseveN pistol in the not-too-distant past; might look there for opinions and reviews.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/handguns/75821-fn_5_7mm.html

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/handguns/70943-fn_five_seven_anybody_have_one.html

https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/handguns/62409-anyone_have_a_fnh_five-seven.html

 

[rhino]

Ah, man! Someone beat me to the Stargate: SG-1 reference, which is probably is the main reason the 5.7 is so popular among its devotees whether they know it or not.

Gosh darn it, it's just cool!

 

[indykid]

Not adequate? Please don't ask the families of those killed at the fort if that round is not adequate. Dead is dead, and it seems that the 5.7x28 killed enough innocent people to get a lot of attention.

Don't you just love my ammo is better than your ammo threads???

 

[rhino]

.22LR and .25ACP have probably killed more people than any other round in America. That doesn't make them good choices for defensive use.

 

[The Keymaster]

The one thing that many people overlook, is hat the 5.7 x 28 uses a 223 caliber bullet. Those of us who reload this caliber have found that exceptional performance can be achieved with specific powders used with specific projectiles. Elite Ammunition has several alternatives also. Elite's new Trident projectile breaks apart upon soft tissue impact creating as many as 3 separate wound channels. Sure the SS197 factory ammo may be a little lame, but I will bet my life on the ammo I load in my FiveSeven any day of the week. I can get rifle like accuracy at a significant distance and 2800 FPS muzzle velocity out of a 5" barrel. That works for me.

 

[darinb]

I have heard that the five-seven was to be banned but I dont think it will happen yet. If they pass another assault weapon ban then I am sure it would be on the list. I shot a buddys and it was easy to be accurate but it was just not my cup of tea. I just dont see much advantage in the 5-7 other than very low recoil and higher standard capacity (but not by much) than other handguns but to each their own.

 

[Eprobertson1]

As with any caliber, shot placement is key! From a 17hmr to a ? Bad shot placement results in a wound and a good shot placement results - you get the picture.