Four Minneapolis officers fired after death of black man

[actaeon277]

good

This is just one company, but it will be interesting to watch how this develops. Say: Didn't I read that NYC removed $1B from police funding?

[video=youtube;Ordqvc2Kbtg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ordqvc2Kbtg[/video]

 

[actaeon277]

Stop around 50 percent of the trucking into cities, I wonder how long that will last.

 

[nonobaddog]

For a few days they will think it is great without all that truck traffic. And then reality will whack their mole.

 

[Alpo]

Time to publish: 50 Norwegian Rat Recipes.

Could be a big seller.

 

[foszoe]

If they can declare meat packing plants essential and keep them open, well truckers don't stand a chance.

 

[actaeon277]

If they can declare meat packing plants essential and keep them open, well truckers don't stand a chance.

They are forcing workers to go to meat packing plants?

 

[nonobaddog]

They are forcing workers to go to meat packing plants?

Actually many meat packing plants closed down. They had no choice regardless of any "rules" or not or whatever by politicians. Most of them started up again when they could.

 

[jbombelli]

I'm in logistics and I can confirm a lot of drivers/carriers don't want to go to these cities.

 

[Phase2]

Federal officers in Portland suffered 113 eye injuries from lasers, DHS official says

"reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm"

[STRIKE]Anyone know where you can buy laser-resistant goggles?[/STRIKE]

I've moved discussion of laser-resistant goggles to a separate thread.

 

[JettaKnight]

Federal officers in Portland suffered 113 eye injuries from lasers, DHS official says

"reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm"

Wow, that's so not cool.

 

[Route 45]

Federal officers in Portland suffered 113 eye injuries from lasers, DHS official says

"reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm"

[STRIKE]Anyone know where you can buy laser-resistant goggles?[/STRIKE]

I've moved discussion of laser-resistant goggles to a separate thread.

I'm not buying any laser-resistant goggles, as my propensity to avoid large gatherings of neanderthals leaves my chances of being attacked with a laser about the same as my chances of getting a handie from Salma Hayek.

But in the event that someone does point a laser at me, I will consider it a deadly threat. Lots of laser-sighted firearms out there, and if my vision is somewhat compromised at the time, a fear of serious bodily injury or death is reasonable. A Glock 19 should serve as a convenient remote off-switch for said laser.

 

[nonobaddog]

Keep your head moving while trying to locate the laser(s). Do not stay still and look at it. If you gave them a stationary target you could suffer more damage than if you give them a moving target.

 

[chipbennett]

I know a few INGO'ers who think that they both deserve it, so there's that.

The problem with that view - and the reason that asserting the distinction between a democracy and a constitutional republic is important - is that, being a constitutional republic, rather than a democracy, we live under the Rule of Law, not mob rule. The Rule of Law protects the rights of the minority against infringement by the majority-mob, regardless of how that majority-mob votes.

 

[nonobaddog]

The Rule of Law protects the rights of the minority against infringement by the majority-mob, regardless of how that majority-mob votes.

It is supposed to. However it is not always effective, ie. california, virginia, etc.

 

[MarkC]

The problem with that view - and the reason that asserting the distinction between a democracy and a constitutional republic is important - is that, being a constitutional republic, rather than a democracy, we live under the Rule of Law, not mob rule. The Rule of Law protects the rights of the minority against infringement by the majority-mob, regardless of how that majority-mob votes.

The rule of law avoids the Tyranny of the Majority.

What these fools believe is that they will always be holding the levers of power. When things shift, as they will, and they are no longer in charge they will NOT like having the tools they crafted used against them.

Sometimes a bad idea, an idea not held by a true majority, can get traction and become law. For a kind-of recent example that is relevant today, look at Prohibition. The majority of Americans either drank, or did not have a problem with those who do. However, no one wanted to publicly oppose the idea of temperance, and the Constitution was amended to make Prohibition the national law of the land. See how that worked out?

 

[MarkC]

It is supposed to. However it is not always effective, ie. california, virginia, etc.

And those are the people working hard to do away with the Electoral College, either directly or in effect, such as with the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. They want the entirety of the US to be managed just as well as California, Virginia, Illinois, etc.

 

[chipbennett]

It is supposed to. However it is not always effective, ie. california, virginia, etc.

Sad, but true.

The rule of law avoids the Tyranny of the Majority.

What these fools believe is that they will always be holding the levers of power. When things shift, as they will, and they are no longer in charge they will NOT like having the tools they crafted used against them.

Sometimes a bad idea, an idea not held by a true majority, can get traction and become law. For a kind-of recent example that is relevant today, look at Prohibition. The majority of Americans either drank, or did not have a problem with those who do. However, no one wanted to publicly oppose the idea of temperance, and the Constitution was amended to make Prohibition the national law of the land. See how that worked out?

Prohibition is an interesting case study. In that case, it was the tyranny of the minority, imposing statist control on the majority. The attempt to legislate morality was an abject failure, doomed ultimately by mass refusal to follow an unjust law.

 

[nonobaddog]

mass refusal to follow an unjust law.

We might be seeing more of this in the future if things go sour at some point.

 

[MarkC]

We might be seeing more of this in the future if things go sour at some point.

Unfortunately, it took about ten years for Prohibition to be repealed. At it was pretty evident pretty early on that it was not working, leading to the rise of organized crime.

 

[actaeon277]

It is supposed to. However it is not always effective, ie. california, virginia, etc.

The rule of law avoids the Tyranny of the Majority.

What these fools believe is that they will always be holding the levers of power. When things shift, as they will, and they are no longer in charge they will NOT like having the tools they crafted used against them.

Sometimes a bad idea, an idea not held by a true majority, can get traction and become law. For a kind-of recent example that is relevant today, look at Prohibition. The majority of Americans either drank, or did not have a problem with those who do. However, no one wanted to publicly oppose the idea of temperance, and the Constitution was amended to make Prohibition the national law of the land. See how that worked out?

yup