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  • rambone

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    Here's a good article on geoengineering from The Guardian. Government's hypothesis is that blasting Aluminum Sulfate particles (aka "aluminum mirrors") into the stratosphere will help deflect sunlight and curb global warming. At least, that is the the excuse they use to pursue these agendas.


    Geo-engineering: green versus greed in the race to cool the planet
    The range of techno-fix ideas is growing by the month. They include absorbing plankton, growing artificial trees, firing silver iodide into clouds to produce rain, genetically engineering crops to be paler in colour to reflect sunlight back to space, fertilising the ocean with iron nanoparticles to increase phytoplankton, blasting sulphate-based aerosols into the stratosphere to deflect sunlight, covering the desert with white plastic to reflect sunlight and painting cities and roads white.

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    so i guess this is nothing to worry about and is perfectly natural.... go back to sleep.


    watch them spread out, not dissipate...


    and you can actually see the particulates in the air here after a day of heavy spraying, but its not like you're breathing that in or anything...

    Wow. It's almost as if planes release large amounts of water vapor, like clouds, which then spread and drift in the upper atmosphere, like clouds.

    And it's almost like there's particulates in the air! Like dust, or smoke, or even water droplets!

    My eyes have been opened, man!

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    Wow. It's almost as if planes release large amounts of water vapor, like clouds, which then spread and drift in the upper atmosphere, like clouds.

    And it's almost like there's particulates in the air! Like dust, or smoke, or even water droplets!

    try aluminum nano particles... among other things.
    New culprit identified in chronic acid rain problem - Nova Scotia - CBC News

    edit: oh and i totally forgot about this...
    http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf
     

    indyjack

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    Stupidity...

    or willful ignorance?

    you still have not presented any evidence!!! all you've done is say you know more than i do and called me names. either show evidence that i am wrong, or **** off... thank you. that goes for the rest of you too...
     

    shibumiseeker

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    you still have not presented any evidence!!! all you've done is say you know more than i do and called me names. either show evidence that i am wrong, or **** off... thank you. that goes for the rest of you too...

    You've not presented any real evidence, just random bits with unsupported assertions and conspiracies, and then you ask that we prove it didn't happen which of course is an argument of the weak mind as it can be difficult to impossible to prove something didn't happen no matter the topic. We have plenty of real and direct evidence of far more important things to worry about than spend time chasing nebulous conspiracies.

    I personally am far more concerned with the government's stated goals of disarming the populous and I choose to spend my efforts fighting that, as just one example.
     

    indyjack

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    You've not presented any real evidence, just random bits with unsupported assertions and conspiracies, and then you ask that we prove it didn't happen which of course is an argument of the weak mind as it can be difficult to impossible to prove something didn't happen no matter the topic. We have plenty of real and direct evidence of far more important things to worry about than spend time chasing nebulous conspiracies.

    I personally am far more concerned with the government's stated goals of disarming the populous and I choose to spend my efforts fighting that, as just one example.

    Omega-News: Chemtrail Patents: United States Patent 4,686,605

    Chemtrail Patents: United States Patent 4,686,605

    Atmospheric Geoengineering is occuring in our skies daily, and on a worldwide basis.

    For those who doubt the feasibility of these special operations, just take a look at the following Patents.

    Chemtrail Patents:

    Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere
    United States Patent 4,686,605 / Eastlund / August 11, 1987
    http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-P...0&s1=4686605.WKU.&OS=PN/4686605&RS=PN/4686605

    A method and apparatus for altering at least one selected region which normally exists above the earth's surface. The region is excited by electron cyclotron resonance heating to thereby increase its charged particle density. In one embodiment, circularly polarized electromagnetic radiation is transmitted upward in a direction substantially parallel to and along a field line which extends through the region of plasma to be altered. The radiation is transmitted at a frequency which excites electron cyclotron resonance to heat and accelerate the charged particles. This increase in energy can cause ionization of neutral particles which are then absorbed as part of the region thereby increasing the charged particle density of the region.

    Method of modifying weather
    United States Patent 6,315,213 / Cordani / November 13, 2001
    http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-P...0&s1=6315213.WKU.&OS=PN/6315213&RS=PN/6315213

    A method for artificially modifying the weather by seeding rain clouds of a storm with suitable cross-linked aqueous polymer. The polymer is dispersed into the cloud and the wind of the storm agitates the mixture causing the polymer to absorb the rain. This reaction forms a gelatinous substance which precipitate to the surface below. Thus, diminishing the clouds ability to rain.

    Process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation using dispersed melanin
    United States Patent / 5,286,979 / Berliner / February 15, 1994
    http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-P...0&s1=5286979.WKU.&OS=PN/5286979&RS=PN/5286979

    This invention is a process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation in the atmosphere by dispersing melanin, its analogs, or derivatives into the atmosphere. By appropriate choice of melanin composition, size of melanin dispersoids, and their concentration, the melanin will absorb some quantity of ultraviolet radiation and thereby lessen its overall effect on the critters who would normally absorb such radiation.

    Liquid atomizing apparatus for aerial spraying
    United States Patent / 4,948,050 / Picot / August 14, 1990
    Patent Database Search Results: <SRCH> in <BANR>

    A rotary liquid spray atomizer for aerial spraying is driven by a variable speed motor, driven in turn by power from a variable speed AC generator. The generator is driven from a power take-off from the engine of the spraying aircraft, a drive assembly includes a device for controlling the speed of the generator relative to the speed of the engine. The particularly convenient drive assembly between the generator and the power take-off is a hydraulic motor, which drives the generator, driven by a hydraulic pump driven from the power take-off. The speed of the hydraulic motor can be controllably varied. Conveniently the AC motor is a synchronous motor.

    Laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying of liquids
    United States Patent / 4,412,654 Yates / November 1, 1983
    Patent Database Search Results: <SRCH> in <BANR>

    A laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying involve the use of a streamlined body having a slot in the trailing edge thereof to afford a quiescent zone within the wing and into which liquid for spraying is introduced. The liquid flows from a source through a small diameter orifice having a discharge end disposed in the quiet zone well upstream of the trailing edge. The liquid released into the quiet zone in the slot forms drops characteristic of laminar flow. Those drops then flow from the slot at the trailing edge of the streamlined body and discharge into the slipstream for free distribution.

    ROCKET HAVING BARIUM RELEASE SYSTEM TO CREATE ION CLOUDS IN THE UPPER ATMOSPHERE
    United States Patent: - US3813875 / Issued/Filed Dates: June 4, 1974 / April 28, 1972
    http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailsbariumresearch.showMessage?topicID=28.topic

    A chemical system for releasing a good yield of free barium (Ba°) atoms and barium ions (BA+) to create ion clouds in the upper atmosphere and interplanetary space for the study of the geophysical properties of the medium. Inventor(s): Paine; Thomas O. Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration with respect to an invention of , Hampton, VA 23364

    NASA: BARIUM - Chemical Formulas/Suppliers
    source: gisgaia
    This is the "Description of Preferred Embodiments" link in the NASA Barium Patent listed above. Astounding that this information was generated in l969 and now,30 years later, there is evidence of Barium saturation in our atmosphere.

    The Barium/Fuel mixtures are listed below along with the suppliers.

    Description of Preferred Embodiments:
    Referring now to the drawings and more particularly to FIG. 1, there is shown a segment of a suitable carrier vehicle 10, such for example a rocket motor. Vehicle 10 is employed to carry fuel tank 11, insulated oxidizer tank 13 and combustion chamber 15, along with the necessary instrumentation, from earth into the upper atmosphere or into interplanetary space. Fuel tank 11 is in fluid connection with combustion chamber 15 and oxidizer tank 13 is in fluid connection with combustion chamber 15 by way of respective conduits 17 and 19. A pair of valves 21 and 23 are disposed within the respective conduits 17 and 19. Valves 21 and 23 are adapted to be selectively and simultaneously opened by a suitable battery-powered timing mechanism, radio signal, or the like, to release the pressurized fuel and oxidizer from tanks 11 and 13. The fuel and oxidizer then flow through conduits 17 and 19 and impinge upon each other through a centrally positioned manifold and suitable jets (not shown) in combustion chamber 15 where spontaneous ignition occurs. The reaction products are then expelled through the open ends of combustion chamber 15 as plasma which includes the desired barium neutral atoms and barium ions as individual species.

    The fuel utilized in fuel tank 11 is either hydrazine (N2 H4) or liquid ammonia (NH3) while the oxidizer employed is selected from the group consisting of liquid fluorine (F2), chlorine trifluoride (ClF3) and oxygen difluoride (OF2). When using hydrazine as the fuel, barium may be dissolved therein as barium chloride, BaCl2, or barium nitrate, Ba(NO3)2, or a combination of the two. When using liquid ammonia as the fuel, barium metal may be dissolved therein. The combination found to produce the highest intensity of Ba° and Ba+ resonance radiation in ground based tests involved a fuel of 16 percent Ba(NO3)2, 17 percent BaCl2 and 67 percent N2 H4 ; and as the oxidizer, the cryogenic liquid fluorine F2 and in which an oxidizer to fuel weight ratio was 1.32.
    Other combinations of ingredients tested are set forth in Table I below:

    TABLE I
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    System Optimum O/F Percent
    Ionization
    Calculated
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    16.7% BaCl2 -
    83.3% N2 H4 /ClF3
    2.36 68.0
    26% BaCl2 -
    74% N2 H4 /ClF3
    2.08 70.0
    50% Ba(NO3)2 -
    50% NH3 /ClF3
    1.52 -
    42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -
    57.1% N2 H4 /ClF3
    1.19 50.0
    16.7% BaCl2 -
    83.3% N2 H4 /F2
    1.95 68.8
    26% BaCl2 -
    74% N2 H4 /F2
    1.71 70.6
    21% BaCl2 -
    9% Ba(NO3)2 -
    70% N2 H4 /F2
    1.57 68.5
    17% BaCl2 -
    16% Ba(NO3)2 -
    67% N2 H4 /F2
    1.31 68.1
    13% BaCl2 -
    21.5% Ba(NO3)2 -
    65.5% N2 H4 /F2
    1.34 63.7
    9% BaCl2 -
    30% Ba(NO3)2 -
    61% N2 H4 /F2
    1.04 63.7
    42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -
    57.1% N2 H4 /F2
    0.976 43.0
    42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -
    57.1% N2 H4 /OF2
    0.694 46.9
    26% BaCL2 -
    74% N2 H4 /OF2
    1.22 52.8
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    The conditions under which each of the combinations listed in Table I were tested were ambient and the percentage ionization was calculated by equations set forth in NASA Contract Report CR-1415 published in August 1969.
    The chemical supplier and manufacturers stated purity for the various chemicals employed are set forth in Table II below:
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    Chemical
    Supplier Purity
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    N2 H4
    Olin Mathieson Chemical
    Technical Grade
    Company, Lake Charles,
    97-98% N2 H4
    Louisiana (2-3% H2 O)

    NH3
    Air Products and Chemicals
    Technical Grade
    Allentown, Pa.

    BaCl2
    J. T. Baker & Co. Reagent Grade
    Phillipsburg, N.J.

    Ba(NO3)2
    J. T. Baker & Co. Reagent Grade
    Phillipsburg, N.J.

    F2 Air Products & Chemicals
    98%
    Allentown, Pa.
    ClF3
    Allied Chemical Co.
    99.5%
    Baton Rouge, La.
    OF2
    Allied Chemical Co.
    98%
    Baton Rouge, La.
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    A solubility study of various mixtures containing Ba(NO3)2, BaCl2 and N2 H4 was made at room temperature and is shown in the triangular plot of FIG. 2. Seven solutions that were used in the tests enumerated in Table I are indicated by reference letters in FIG. 2 as follows:
    a. 16.7% BaCl2 - 83.3% N2 H4
    b. 26% BaCl2 - 74% N2 H4
    c. 21% BaCl2 - 9% Ba(NO3)2 - 70% N2 H4
    d. 17% BaCl2 - 16% Ba(NO3)2 - 67% N2 H4
    e. 13% BaCl2 -21.5% Ba(NO3)2 -65.5% N2 H4
    f. 9% BaCl2 - 30% Ba(NO3)2 - 61% N2 H4
    g. 42.9% Ba(NO3)2 - 57.1% N2 H4

    A mixture below the Saturation Line, that is toward the Ba(NO3)2 or BaCl2 corners contained a solid and a solution phase whereas the salts were in complete solution above the saturation line.
    All fuel mixtures or systems described were easily handled except the 50 percent Ba(NO3)2 -50 percent NH3 system. This system caused clogging of the feed valves due to precipitation of the Ba(NO3)2. In addition the light values obtained using this system was relatively low.
    In testing of each of the fuel mixtures set forth in Table I the Ba° light was greater than the Ba+ light for a given oxidizer/fuel ratio in each of the mixtures. The maximum light occurred in all systems at a point located between the stoichiometric O/F and 3 percent less than the stoichiometric O/F. The stoichiometric O/F is defined as being equivalent to the oxidizer to fuel weight ratio in a balanced equation assuming the salt is converted to free Ba, F to HF, Cl to HCl and O to H2 O. For example, one system tested had an O/F ratio of 142 grams oxidizer per 100 grams fuel or 1.42/1.00. If the barium is assumed to be converted to BaF2 then the stoichiometric O/F is 1.47. Since the greatest light output in all cases occurred with O/F less than stoichiometric it is apparent that little of the Ba was combined as BaF2 or BaCl2. This was confirmed by spectrographic analysis.
    In Table II the various systems are listed in decreasing light output or relative light intensity as measured by phototubes in millivolts, thereby indicating the relative barium yield.
    TABLE III
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    SYSTEM MAXIMUM RELATIVE
    (percent weight for fuel)
    INTENSITY, millivolts
    Ba° 5535 A
    Ba+ 4554 A
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    17% BaCl2 -16% Ba(NO3)2 -67% N2 H4 /F2
    27600
    11800
    13% BaCl2 -21.5% Ba(NO3)2 -65.5% N2 H4 /F2
    23600
    8340
    21% BaCl2 -9% Ba(NO3)2 -70% N2 H4 /F2
    20600
    9100
    9% BaCl2 -30% Ba(NO3)2 -61% N2 H4 /F2
    16600
    5970
    26% BaCl2 -74% N2 H4 /F2
    16600
    6520
    26% BaCl2 -74% N2 H4 /OF2
    11800
    2100
    16.7% BaCl2 -83.3% N2 H4 /F2
    9100 3350
    42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -57.1% N2 H4 /F2
    9000 1800
    42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -57.1% N2 H4 /OF2
    7300 1330
    42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -57.1% N2 H4 /ClF3
    663 94
    50% Ba(NO3)2 -50% NH3 /ClF3
    221 44
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    From the above information, it is readily seen that the 17 percent BaCl2 -16 percent Ba(NO3)2 -67 percent N2 H4 /F2 system gave the greatest amount of light intensity of the 4554 A Ba+ and 5535 A Ba° spectral lines. Ambient tests showed that the optimum oxidizer to fuel ratio of this system was 1.32 to 1.00. This system containing 8.52 weight percent barium was estimated to be 68.1 percent ionized. Also since this system had the largest relative light intensity it would be expected to give the greatest amount of Ba° and Ba+ and would appear to be the optimum system for a barium payload. In all systems tested it was found that the relative light reached a maximum at the O/F corresponding to the stoichiometric equation yielding barium as one of the reaction products and that the relative light output was sensitive to the O/F. Moving to either side of the optimum O/F caused a sharp decrease in relative light.
    In vacuum tests the ignition of each system tested was smooth and like the ambient tests, took place in the combustion chamber. The rapid expansion in vacuum caused a decreased atom and ion density in the luminous flame which caused the light intensity to be about 1/37 to 1/50 the intensity measured in ambient tests. The percentage ionization was approximately the same for vacuum and ambient tests.
    The operation of the invention is now believed apparent. Initially, fuel tank 11 is charged with the fuel containing the desired quantity of dissolved barium salt and pressurized with helium. The fuel tank pressure may be in the range of 6.89 to 20.06 ¥ 105 Newton/meter2. Oxidizer tank 13 is also charged with the appropriate oxidizer and pressurized. Cryogenic oxidizers such as OF2 and F2 are condensed from gases in the closed oxidizer tank which must be maintained enclosed in a liquid nitrogen bath. The oxidizer feed valve 23 and conduit 19 must also be maintained at liquid nitrogen temperature with a liquid nitrogen jacket when employing a cryogenic oxidizer.
    The noncryogenic oxidizer, ClF3, may be pressurized into the closed oxidizer tank 13 from a supply bottle with super dry nitrogen.
    Combustion chamber 15 is formed of stainless steel, aluminum, or the like F2 compatible metals and is internally partitioned by the manifold, not shown. The conduits 17 and 19 terminate in a manifold having injector orifices (not shown) mounted 90° to each other within each end of chamber 15 and sized for pressure drops of 5.24 to 10.2 ¥ 105 Newton/meter2 across the orifice. Fuel and oxidizer flows are in the range of 2.05 to 6.82 Kg/sec each. The entire system is carried into the upper atmosphere or interplanetary space by rocket vehicle 10 where, in response to a suitable signal, timing mechanism or the like, valves 21 and 23 may be selectively opened and closed and the pressurized liquid fuel and oxidizer will flow through conduits 17 and 19 into combination unit 15. When the hypergolic liquids impinge upon each other, they spontaneously ignite to expel reaction product gases or plasma including the highly luminous barium neutral atoms and barium ions as individual species. All of the barium reaching the combustion chamber is vaporized and released through the opposite ends thereof so that a high yield efficiency is obtained. The resulting high flame temperature, approximately 4,000°K., and some as yet not determined chemical activation, produces a relatively large amount of barium ions in the flame which is a highly desirable condition. It has been estimated from spectroscopic measurements that the degree of ionization may be as high as 75 percent in the released plasma in comparison to being on the order of 1 percent for the previously used Ba-CuO solid system which depends almost entirely on solar photoionization, a time-dependent phenomena which further reduces the usable barium yield of this known system.
    Thus, it is readily apparent that the present invention provides an inherently more efficient process of producing barium clouds wherein the degree of ionization in the released plasma is much greater. The selectively opening and closing of valves 21 and 23 gives the possibility of a payload with multiple releases permitted due to the start and stop capabilities of the liquid system. Also, the liquid system of the present invention gives the possibility of controlling rates so that a trailtype release can be obtained as well as a point-source type. In addition, the liquid system of the present invention effects the formation of barium atoms and ions at the time of combustion and expansion at high temperatures and results in little opportunity for the barium to condense during release.
    There are obviously many variations and modifications to the present invention that will be readily apparent to those skilled in the art without departing from the spirit or scope of the disclosure or from the scope of the claims.

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    The last thought I am going to put towards this topic is this -

    I am sure there are a whole lot of contrails over Washington D.C. . Why would the feds allow themselves to be sprayed with some sort of deadly toxin?
     

    shibumiseeker

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    <quotes a wall o text>

    Yeah, so? Experiments for atmospheric seeding have been going on before we even had airplanes. Thus far no one in this thread has said it has never been done, only that it is not currently being done on a widespread basis for any real reason. Nothing you quoted in your wall o text gave any evidence of that.
     

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    The last thought I am going to put towards this topic is this -

    I am sure there are a whole lot of contrails over Washington D.C. . Why would the feds allow themselves to be sprayed with some sort of deadly toxin?

    The already had the antidote. :twocents:
     

    IndyJill

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    Yeah, so? Experiments for atmospheric seeding have been going on before we even had airplanes. Thus far no one in this thread has said it has never been done, only that it is not currently being done on a widespread basis for any real reason. Nothing you quoted in your wall o text gave any evidence of that.



    Who else is doing weather modification?
    The latest data from the World Meteorological Organization compiled in 2000 listed 74 projects ongoing in 23 countries worldwide (WMO, 2000). In 2001 the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) documented 66 projects conducted in the western U.S. Project objectives included fog dispersal, snowpack and rainfall enhancement, and hail suppression.

    Who performs cloud seeding operations? On most U.S. programs, a company specializing in cloud seeding is hired to conduct seeding operations. Other programs are conducted by universities, private companies, or even local weather modification or water management entities.


    ...Sounds pretty intensive to me.

    Reference:
    North American Weather Modification Council
     

    shibumiseeker

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    near Bedford on a whole lot of land.

    Creating a shill account now?

    I point you to your opening statement:

    "The evidence demonstrates that the primary purpose of the public nuisance of Geoengineering is to cause bodily injury and premature death with malice aforethought"

    Still haven't seen any evidence... Point in fact there are treaties in place which prevent weather modification for use as a warfare technique.
     
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