Ghost guns!

[poptab]

?Ghost guns? have law enforcement officials worried - NY Daily News

Tldr: you apparently can buy gun kits online from anywhere and build your own gun without leaving trace! Because of atfe loopholes....

Too bad there isnt a lower in the picture.

 

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[ATM]

Oh, it's there alright, but ghost lowers don't show up in pictures or on those airport x-ray machines.

It's what makes them so dangerous!

 

[hoosierdoc]

Big deal. Ghosts don't have arms or fingers. They can't even fire guns.

 

[BogWalker]

Are they back on this **** again?

 

[Cameramonkey]

Are they back on this **** again?

Irrelevant. Your statement requires that they actually got OFF it in the first place.

 

[indykid]

I looked at the photo of the "Ghost Gun" and it was so scary I almost died...laughing. I know enough about firearms, and mechanical things, and am trying to figure out where you install the magazine in that, or is it a single shot? But, but, but...Just when you thought you have seen stupidity at it's greatest, this comes along.

 

[HubertGummer]

 

[actaeon277]

Talk about a minimal, uninformative article.
It's like the author was paying by the word.
No info what so ever.

 

[1DOWN4UP]

If anyone comes up with that list of 1000 website's please pm me.

 

[MCgrease08]

Talk about a minimal, uninformative article.
It's like the author was paying by the word.
No info what so ever.

That is by design. They couldn't gin up enough fear in the public over 80% lowers, so now they try and claim parts kits can be used to create untraceable guns with no serial numbers, despite the fact that one still needs a lower to create an actual firearm.

Remember, this is NY Daily News we're talking about.

 

[warthog]

Oh, it's there alright, but ghost lowers don't show up in pictures or on those airport x-ray machines.

It's what makes them so dangerous!

I thought Vampire Guns couldn't be seen in pix or mirrors...

I wonder how many of these posts of late or ever have been Antigun trolls looking to point out how we scary gun people want untraceable firearms and also how we make full auto guns all the timei n our basements so we can shoot police people.

Guess it could also be a BATFE person looking =who might hit the link so they can put them on a list....

 

[ATM]

I thought Vampire Guns couldn't be seen in pix or mirrors...

I always get ghost guns, vampire guns and Amish guns mixed up. They're all quite similar in that regard.

And, I'm on enough lists already.

 

[Tombs]

On a more serious note, I've always wondered about the rationale regarding making the lower receiver/receiver the serialized part.

Does anyone know why they took that route as opposed to making it the barrel?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

On a more serious note, I've always wondered about the rationale regarding making the lower receiver/receiver the serialized part.

Does anyone know why they took that route as opposed to making it the barrel?

It's the statute, Tombs.

Federal law defines firearm as the frame of the weapon. 18 USC §921(3).

(3)The term “firearm” means (A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon; (C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or (D) any destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm.

 

[Bennettjh]

Wow, real informative...

Something funny to add, I just received a "ghost gun" kit almost identical to that, tonight.

 

[Tombs]

It's the statute, Tombs.

Federal law defines firearm as the frame of the weapon. 18 USC §921(3).

(3)The term “firearm” means (A) any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon; (C) any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; or (D) any destructive device. Such term does not include an antique firearm.

So I guess it's arbitrary reasoning.

 

[BogWalker]

Barrel is a wear item, receiver generally isn't. At least that's why it makes sense to me. No idea what they were thinking.

If we think about, the receiver is what every other major part of the firearm is attached to. It naturally assumes the position as the "heart" of the weapon.

 

[warthog]

I always get ghost guns, vampire guns and Amish guns mixed up. They're all quite similar in that regard.

And, I'm on enough lists already.

Me too, on both counts...

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

Del-ton has been selling kits since the late 90s. I'm sure there are examples with more history.
Must not have been newsworthy almost 20 years ago, but now it is?
I'd like to see that scary kit assembled. Tucking the buffer and spring in the buffer tube and putting the CH and BCG in the upper would make it even scarier!