Go It Alone United Kingdom!

[jamil]

If Brexit is successfully accomplished I kinda hope that more EU members jump ship. I think the original idea was more of a federation of countries which would create a large trade bloc to compete with the US on that scale. As well as, making some other agreements among member countries, such as making a common currency; making it easier to travel between member countries, etcetera. But the EU became a bloated centralized bureaucracy instead.

 

[Spear Dane]

If Brexit is successfully accomplished I kinda hope that more EU members jump ship. I think the original idea was more of a federation of countries which would create a large trade bloc to compete with the US on that scale. As well as, making some other agreements among member countries, such as making a common currency; making it easier to travel between member countries, etcetera. But the EU became a bloated centralized bureaucracy instead.

Ayup. They are trying to be the United States of Europe. This is not, and probably never will be, in our best interest. I don't even think it's in their best interest either given the track record so far.

 

[BugI02]

I've heard of a yard of beer, but have never seen one. Maybe it's a meter on the continent.

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[JettaKnight]

If Brexit is successfully accomplished I kinda hope that more EU members jump ship. I think the original idea was more of a federation of countries which would create a large trade bloc to compete with the US on that scale. As well as, making some other agreements among member countries, such as making a common currency; making it easier to travel between member countries, etcetera. But the EU became a bloated centralized bureaucracy instead.

I believe the original idea is if you tie these countries together, they'll be less likely to go to war.

That worked, but then the socialist said, "Hey we can use this EU to..." If the EU budget was cut drastically, then they couldn't be so imposing and domineering to the member states.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

A French politician blames "teh Jews" for corbyns loss.

https://twitter.com/pegobry/status/1205463198939389952?s=19

 

[HoughMade]

A French politician blames "the Jews" for corbyns loss.

https://twitter.com/pegobry/status/1205463198939389952?s=19

Germany is far from the only country in Europe with a long history and well-earned reputation for anti-semitism. I was going to say it would easier to list the countries without such a history, but I'm drawing a blank.

 

[JettaKnight]

A French politician blames "teh Jews" for corbyns loss.

https://twitter.com/pegobry/status/1205463198939389952?s=19

Don't you mean "Les Jews"?

 

[Phase2]

The parallels continue to pile up. Leftists can't accept the results of a free and fair election.

'Not My Prime Minister' - Radical Left Marches Against Democracy In Britain

When will the UK come to grips with the obvious Russia meddling in your election. The UK needs a do-over once Russian assets are purged from Facebook, Instagram, Sky News, the Telegraph and Tinder.
— Patrick Klocek (@PJKlocek) December 13, 2019

 

[Alamo]

I believe the original idea is if you tie these countries together, they'll be less likely to go to war.
...

NATO did (and more or less still does) this for western Europe, Warsaw Pact for the east. When the Russian bear had to pull back, some previously unfinished business took place among the former Pact allies...and NATO for better or worse helped sort it out. There were some advantages to the US providing the vast bulk of military power and the western allies cheating on their security contributions (2% of GDP to defense). It kept them all weak enough to not worry about each other or the Soviets, with the bonus of being able to "morally" criticize those warmonger Americans. (Not that I'm cynical or anything.)

The EU was sold as countering war with each other without American hegemony and economic power and all that, but it moved so rapidly to consolidate power in Brussels (and quelch troublesome small member nations) that I doubt that those were the primary goals of its architects.

I do think that if UK surges ahead economically within a reasonable period of time some of the other EU nations will get restive. The small nations are tired of being told to be more austere (even tho they need to be) and the populace of the larger nations are getting tired of paying for the small nations' lousy economic policies and I think they're all tired of importing yet more poor people that don't actually want to be Europeans and being told that they are cretins for resenting it. A successful Brexit will put a lot of pressures on these fault lines.

 

[BugI02]

The parallels continue to pile up. Leftists can't accept the results of a free and fair election.

'Not My Prime Minister' - Radical Left Marches Against Democracy In Britain

When will the UK come to grips with the obvious Russia meddling in your election. The UK needs a do-over once Russian assets are purged from Facebook, Instagram, Sky News, the Telegraph and Tinder.
— Patrick Klocek (@PJKlocek) December 13, 2019

Is their Tinder the same as ours? Because that would seem to be the place to flaunt 'assets', Russian or otherwise

 

[Alamo]

Is their Tinder the same as ours? Because that would seem to be the place to flaunt 'assets', Russian or otherwise

I looked up @PJKlocek's Twitter feed. Judging by all the other tweets, that one you quoted is a massive bit of sarcasm.

 

[Alamo]

As with nearly everything else bureaucratic and governmental, Yes, Minister and Sir Humphrey nailed the EU years ago in it's progenitive form, the EEC:

[video=youtube;rvYuoWyk8iU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvYuoWyk8iU[/video]

 

[jamil]

The parallels continue to pile up. Leftists can't accept the results of a free and fair election.

'Not My Prime Minister' - Radical Left Marches Against Democracy In Britain

So is Steele working on another dossier? It's probably not too late you know.

 

[Phase2]

So is Steele working on another dossier? It's probably not too late you know.

You must have missed it:

Wow. Just wow... From 12/11- one day before the British elections:

Hillary Clinton, Chris Steele Allege Boris Johnson Is A Russian Stooge

So, Hillary is back at it, trying to taint another election with Christopher Steele.

 

[jamil]

You must have missed it:

****! Things are getting so nuts I guess I have to make sure it’s not real before joke about it.

 

[Phase2]

 

[Thegeek]

Vote to leave passes. The government doesn't like that result, so they fight for what they want. They're calling for another vote now. This is the facade of democracy.

 

[Phase2]

1. The citizens voted to leave the EU.
2. Prime minister ****s around and doesn't leave the EU.
3. Citizens voted to replace the prime minister with one more open to leaving..
4. MPs obstruct new prime minister's efforts to leave the EU.
5. Citizens vote to replace the MPs with a group that is more leave friendly.

Democracy is hard, particularly when the government doesn't want to act as servants of the people.

 

[Libertarian01]

1. The citizens voted to leave the EU.
2. Prime minister ****s around and doesn't leave the EU.
3. Citizens voted to replace the prime minister with one more open to leaving..
4. MPs obstruct new prime minister's efforts to leave the EU.
5. Citizens vote to replace the MPs with a group that is more leave friendly.

Democracy is hard, particularly when the government doesn't want to act as servants of the people.

This is so true. However, it can be carried a step further when PARTIES don't want to do what their base is telling them to do.

That is how Trump was elected. If the republican party had been truly responsive to its base for the past many years Trump never would have had a chance. But they didn't want to do what their base demanded, and now they have a candidate they don't like.

Regards,

Doug

 

[Phase2]

I'd argue that falls under step #4. A lot of Republicans retired in 2018 and more are scheduled to retire in 2020. They are overwhelmingly anti-Trumpers and haven't done what their base wanted.