Gunsite....Frontsight

[R.G.Gray]

Does anyone have in personal experience with either of these training facilities? Thinking about maybe attending one of them. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

 

[Streck-Fu]

I will never have personal experience with Frontsite.

 

[IndyGunworks]

gunsite G2G
Frontsight no no

 

[NHT3]

Really enjoyed Gunsite. Not cheap but I thought it was worth every penny.

 

[shooter521]

I will never have personal experience with Frontsite.

This. They are on my "NFE" list (which is short, but distinguished).

I'd also give Gunsite a pass unless someone was paying for me to go. There are many, MANY other great training opportunities on which to spend your hard-earned that are much closer to home.

MHO.

 

[Shay]

There really isn't a reason to leave Indiana if you want quality training. There are a few good schools here and several good schools and instructors are hosted in the state every year.

Save on travel and take twice as many classes locally.

 

[PastorBlaster]

I was at FrontSight in '02 and learned a ton. That being said, their reputation has taken a serious nose dive in the last decade. But, if I was out in Vegas and I could get a good deal, I'd go again.

 

[canav844]

Gunsite is holding a class in IN next year, if you want to get a taste for it before major travel. checkout their website for more details, I think at least one member here was looking for some INGOers to go with, I'm not yet rich enough to see their classrooms yet, but maybe someday.

If the videos I've seen come out of gunsite are any indication, you'll learn alot from a visit to them, for frontsite google frontsite lawsuit or look up the better business bureau listings for them, there's also been a few news stories of observers getting shot by accident.

 

[esrice]

Gunsite

Front Sight

Although Gunsite 150 was my first "real" training experience, I agree with shooter521 and Shay-- there are better and more local options from which to choose from, at a much better value for your dollar.

 

[Tango]

Front Sight pop-up ads must be getting to you subliminally, lol. j/k, sort of.

 

[R.G.Gray]

Thanks for all the input. Is there a list of the firearms training offered in IN. or do I just google it?

 

[ultraspec]

I know MAS AYOOB comes to Bloomington IL once or twice a year FYI

 

[esrice]

Thanks for all the input. Is there a list of the firearms training offered in IN. or do I just google it?

Course announcements are often posted right here in this very forum.

Tactics and Training - INGunOwners

 

[Shay]

Thanks for all the input. Is there a list of the firearms training offered in IN. or do I just google it?

What is your goal with training? Basic familiarity? Competition? Marksmanship? Defense?

Not all schools are created equal and different schools focus on different things.

 

[usmcdjb]

A little late to the game, but here goes.

I took a FrontSight class (Defensive Handgun) when I was still in the Corps and stationed in CA. They were just starting, and operating off a rented range in Bakersfield. Honestly, I thought the training was very good, and the instructors as well. I even bought into a membership, and upgraded at one time.

However, I did grow weary of all the 'exchange in abundance' deals and verbage. It never ends.

I am hoping to attend the Gunsite training in Lebanon in 2012, but will be my first experience with them.

I have also trained with John Farnam (DTI) in Rochester on an urban rifle course, and was pleased with that. I like the fact that John runs the range 'hot', and makes no bones about it being a dangerous thing you need to learn how to handle. He is also very well spoken, and if you aren't subscribed to his occasional email (quips), I would suggest it. Defense Training International, Inc.

If you want a little more close and personal training, I've also trained with Modern Combative Systems, as well as the Pit (Home - Indiana Pit - Kokomo IN) in Kokomo with their Final Options Tactics. I'd go again to either course.

 

[rhino]

I took a FrontSight class (Defensive Handgun) when I was still in the Corps and stationed in CA. They were just starting, and operating off a rented range in Bakersfield. Honestly, I thought the training was very good, and the instructors as well. I even bought into a membership, and upgraded at one time.

Were Gabe Suarez and Chuck Taylor still associated with Front Sight back then?

 

[usmcdjb]

Not that I recall. But it was back in the mid 90s. My mind doesn't work like it used to so I could be wrong.

Were Gabe Suarez and Chuck Taylor still associated with Front Sight back then?

 

[ray d]

I am an instructor at front sight. Gabe Suarez and Chuck Taylor were not there when I was .I can say that you will learn a lot and stop many bad habbits.If you need any more info ask or pm me.

 

[Jtgarner]

I also took a front sight class, and will probably take another because my step dad got some good deals on a few classes. Its fun to go out to Vegas and go shooting every day
That being said, when the frontsight classes are used up I will not buy any more. There are a lot of good places to train in Indiana and the surrounding area.

 

[qwerty99]

The worst I've heard said about FS from anyone that has actually been there is in reference to the hard sale at the end which they must have toned down quite a bit because when I went the sales pitch was almost non-existent. A lot of people say they "know someone" who hated it, but I have never talked to anyone who actually attended who wasn't completely satisfied.
The worst I've heard about FS from people who haven't been there is that the founder drinks goats blood under the full moon with Tom Cruise. Who cares, even if it were true? You can opt out of the emails (I used to get about 2/week, sometimes more, and deleting them wasn't THAT hard), and if you listen to the phone message it tells you at the end to push 9 (or something like that) to have you name removed from their calling list. Again, the marketing is irrelevant. The training is good, and while the list price is a little high, they are always having a special on their courses, so just wait until the one you are interested in come up for cheap.
Now with regards to good local training being available, that is true. But that's not an excuse to flame FS. If you haven't been, keep the hearsay to yourself.
It is my understanding that the lawsuit was over a select few members and has since been settled. They are still growing and building new ranges, and I think the worst of the growing pains are behind them.
I really enjoyed my time in NV and learned a lot, and since I have family in the area I plan on attending again next time I'm out there visiting. I can't wait to try out the ropes course.