HB 1221

[longbarrel]

Just stumbled across this.. Had no idea. Kind of sucks. Check it out.
House Bill 1221

 

[witdog2020]

Boy thats gonna make it tough on coon hunters and coyote hunters!

 

[Lonnie]

looks like a few minor wording changes and taking out a few grey areas. Still appears to be the same rule as always

 

[longbarrel]

looks like a few minor wording changes and taking out a few grey areas. Still appears to be the same rule as always

Read it again, Lonnie

 

[ZS84]

looks like a few minor wording changes and taking out a few grey areas. Still appears to be the same rule as always

Maybe i did not read it correctly but to me it sounds like you will not be able to use a spot light to locate ANY animal from Oct. 1 through Jan 15. This is not limited to any animal.

 

[ZS84]

I also do not think that there is a limit on what someone can call a spot light. Maybe i am wrong but could a CO, if he wanted to be a pita, say that a flashlight is a spotlight? Would it then not be ok to use a flashlight to blood trail a deer at night?

 

[witdog2020]

I also do not think that there is a limit on what someone can call a spot light. Maybe i am wrong but could a CO, if he wanted to be a pita, say that a flashlight is a spotlight? Would it then not be ok to use a flashlight to blood trail a deer at night?

It says spotlight or search light, that could go as far as car headlights or a kid hunting nightcrawlers.

 

[Jerry C]

This won't affect coon and coyote hunters. Read section 2-d, it says "except furbearing mammals". I would say coons and coyotes fit in that catagory.

 

[dbd870]

It still seems to me using a light to recover a downed animal could be a problem?

 

[Haymaker]

There is an exception for furbearing animals.
(d) A person may not take any wildlife, except furbearing mammals,with the aid of illumination of any spotlight, searchlight, or other artificial light.

 

[CountryBoy19]

Personally, I think this bill is a big step backwards in our freedoms and it is far over-reaching.

This makes it impossible to do any form of nature watching at night. And makes it very ambiguous to "look for things" at night as well. I personally think it's a big batch of BS. As the bill is currently written, you can't even try to locate a downed animal with a light (even if you don't have a firearm). And you can't even try to find your lost dog at night either. IIRC, ss the current state statutes and definitions are written, any animal (even domesticated) is considered wild, and therefore can't have a light cast upon it at night unless it's a part of agricultural operations or it is a furbearing animal.

View this thread for further discussion on the issue.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...rs/189236-hb1221_regulating_spotlighting.html

 

[witdog2020]

Yea I missed the fur bearing exception, Its still BS. I don't see a problem with lights, I do see a problem with poaching. They are just looking for a reason to make distinguishing a lawbreaker easier. You could just as easily be out shining coon with no dog, and be arrested. Unfortunately, It seems like the lawman always seems to come to the conclusion that you are breaking the law and not necessarily believe that you could be doing what is allowed by law.

 

[Willie]

Whatever you take on ths bill contact.... .

Chair: Senator Mishler - Senate Republicans: Sen. Ryan Mishler
Vice Chair:
Members:
Waterman R.M. - Senate Republicans: Sen. John Waterman
Banks - Senate Republicans: Sen. Jim Banks
Kruse - Senate Republicans: Sen. Dennis Kruse
Steele - Senate Republicans: Sen. Brent Steele
Tomes - Senate Republicans: Sen. Jim Tomes
Yoder - Senate Republicans: Sen. Carlin Yoder

R. Young - R.M.M., Indiana Senate Democratic Caucus: Senator Richard Young - Home
Hume - Indiana Senate Democratic Caucus: Senator Lindel Hume - Home
Skinner - Indiana Senate Democratic Caucus: Senator Tim Skinner - Home

Personally I think the bill is very poorly written and unenforcable to a large degree. How does a CO know if you ave permission to shine a piece of property that you may or may not have leased or permission to hunt?