"Here in Indiana we have a concealed carry policy"

[blamecharles]

Yep those were the words I heard after "do you have a permit for that?"

So there I was in Speedway on West st downtown, getting a hotdog and Monster Mean Bean(yum) when in walks IMPD(won't bash the officer) comes up and asks quietly if I have my permit to which I said yes and showed it to him. He starts to tell me that we have a conceal carry policy in Indiana to which I promptly told him "no we don't IC is silent on the matter" I showed him the License to Carry Handgun on the top and informed him that I had a couple copies of the code in my car if he wanted one to look through. He politely said no and then went into the same tired argument about how people are gonna be afraid, and we get MWAG calls and the same old argument we have here,( at this point i asked another customer if my firearm bothered them, to which the answer was no) I told the officer "that isn't my concern as I am not doing anything illegal, am I being detained?" "No" he says, so I shook his hand said thanks for the conversation and started to leave , but apparently he wanted to have more conversation about "what if" so I informed him about INGO and the OC/CC argument that can be found here: https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/carry_issues_and_self_defense/71996-the_open_carry_argument.html(just in case the officer decided to join us.)

Anyways I was not happy about being told we are a CC state so I will be dropping a letter in the inbox of IMPD to inform them that they are incorrect on the policy, so -1 for that but the officer was very polite and even said that "I stand corrected" on the CC issue about half way through our conversation, so +1/2 for that.

*I don't care if you prefer CC for this reason the link is above if you wanna argue about it*

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Wwwweeeellll, before SB292 he would have been correct in Speedway.

Hey, an IMPD run in where you did not get a gun waved in your face, sounds like a win to me!

Anyways I was not happy about being told we are a CC state

Heckler's veto.

It would be interesting to know if this is an internal policy, or something they push at roll call or whatever, or just an internal meme.

 

[VUPDblue]

I understand there are training bulletins coming to the department to address this issue.

 

[Hotdoger]

Amazing how they want to "educate" everyone yet don't even know the laws themselves.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I understand there are training bulletins coming to the department to address this issue.

That is very good news. Thanks for the update, VU.

 

[hoosierdoc]

But he admitted he was wrong. Cheers for that. Would you mind saying what the officer was buying?

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

Hey, an IMPD run in where you did not get a gun waved in your face, sounds like a win to me!.

He's just lucky he wasn't on a motorcycle , had a dog with him or there were any 5 year old girls near him !

 

[blamecharles]

But he admitted he was wrong. Cheers for that. Would you mind saying what the officer was buying?

I didn't see what he got he stood by the coke machine for a minute though. Had a funny look on his face like that didn't go the way he thought it would.

 

[blamecharles]

He's just lucky he wasn't on a motorcycle , had a dog with him or there were any 5 year old girls near him !

I have a new puppy so that would have been bad.

 

[blamecharles]

I understand there are training bulletins coming to the department to address this issue.

Who should a complaint / compliment email go to at IMPD, I am sending a combo on the situation, he was wrong but handled the situation well.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I understand there are training bulletins coming to the department to address this issue.

Out of curiosity...would those bulletins be made available to the public? It might be interesting to read what they are being instructed.

 

[9mmfan]

Yep those were the words I heard after "do you have a permit for that?"

So there I was in Speedway on West st downtown, getting a hotdog and Monster Mean Bean(yum) when in walks IMPD(won't bash the officer) comes up and asks quietly if I have my permit to which I said yes and showed it to him. He starts to tell me that we have a conceal carry policy in Indiana to which I promptly told him "no we don't IC is silent on the matter" I showed him the License to Carry Handgun on the top and informed him that I had a couple copies of the code in my car if he wanted one to look through. He politely said no and then went into the same tired argument about how people are gonna be afraid, and we get MWAG calls and the same old argument we have here,( at this point i asked another customer if my firearm bothered them, to which the answer was no) I told the officer "that isn't my concern as I am not doing anything illegal, am I being detained?" "No" he says, so I shook his hand said thanks for the conversation and started to leave , but apparently he wanted to have more conversation about "what if" so I informed him about INGO and the OC/CC argument that can be found here: https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/carry_issues_and_self_defense/71996-the_open_carry_argument.html(just in case the officer decided to join us.)

Anyways I was not happy about being told we are a CC state so I will be dropping a letter in the inbox of IMPD to inform them that they are incorrect on the policy, so -1 for that but the officer was very polite and even said that "I stand corrected" on the CC issue about half way through our conversation, so +1/2 for that.

*I don't care if you prefer CC for this reason the link is above if you wanna argue about it*

It's funny, when I read that all I felt was jealously on the great lunch you had. Does that make me strange?

 

[VUPDblue]

I don't think the training bulletins are public.

 

[VUPDblue]

Who should a complaint / compliment email go to at IMPD, I am sending a combo on the situation, he was wrong but handled the situation well.

there is a citizens complaint office. I don't know the number/address but I'm sure you can find it at Indy.gov

 

[Ted]

The problem isn't from the rank and file cops, as much as it is with the department's leadership that spew, or allow the misinformation to be continued.

A few years ago, Beech Grove P.D.'s departmental attorney informed its officers that a LTCH didn't mean that a round could be carried in a chamber.

 

[Hammerhead]

Who should a complaint / compliment email go to at IMPD, I am sending a combo on the situation, he was wrong but handled the situation well.

Frank Straub.


Insert purple if you're feeling frisky.

 

[eirish2001]

Wwwweeeellll, before SB292 he would have been correct in Speedway.

Hey, an IMPD run in where you did not get a gun waved in your face, sounds like a win to me!



Heckler's veto.

It would be interesting to know if this is an internal policy, or something they push at roll call or whatever, or just an internal meme.

Actually the Speedway law said you had to open carry.

 

[Gun Bunny]

Actually the Speedway law said you had to open carry.

I thought that also, to bad you didn't inform him of that.

 

[the1kidd03]

I understand there are training bulletins coming to the department to address this issue.

GOOD...it seems they are religious about harrassing law abiding citizens from what I and those I know have observed

Had I not been 18-19 at the time, I would have filed a lawsuit several years ago when I was OC'ing and harrassed by 7 of them had I been smart enough to obtain identification from all of them. Of course there were Speedway, IPD, and Clermont all in the mix. Since, I have heard from various people including several department employees that this area (northwest district) is particularly ignorant and "harsh" in these matters.

 

[WC Deer Hunter]

Did you ask him if you were being followed by a 5 yr old girl?