Here it comes!

[jake blue]

I think you give that one side a bit too much credit, if you're talking parties.

I would agree. Neither political party is on the side of preserving the constitution but there are a heckuva lot more INDIVIDUALS in one party who want this than the other party even if it only a handful.

 

[Cameramonkey]

I struggle to understand how anyone can support what amounts to clear violations of everything this country is supposed to stand for simply because their side currently holds the reigns.

Easy. Look at Rittenhouse. Lots of people calling for him to pay for killing a man. Damn the facts. He killed somebody, and needed at least SOME kind of punishment! You just cant kill somebody and walk free!

They lack any common sense or rule of law. Its all feelz and false equivalency. They see only black and white, and no grey; If One of those rioters had killed Kyle, THEY would have gone to jail, so its only fair Kyle should receive the same fate! (never mind the fact of no laws broken, self defense vs assault, etc)

 

[jake blue]

Easy. Look at Rittenhouse. Lots of people calling for him to pay for killing a man. Damn the facts. He killed somebody, and needed at least SOME kind of punishment! You just cant kill somebody and walk free!

They lack any common sense or rule of law. Its all feelz and false equivalency. They see only black and white, and no grey; If One of those rioters had killed Kyle, THEY would have gone to jail, so its only fair Kyle should receive the same fate! (never mind the fact of no laws broken, self defense vs assault, etc)

I get what you're saying but disagree with one point ... If Kyle had been killed in that scenario, not only would we not know his name but also it's highly unlikely there would have been enough investigation to even compile a list of potential suspects. In all the hundreds of days/nights of BLM riots this nation has endured in the last several years, there have been fewer arrests and fewer prosecutions than has been invested in a single day of protest that occurred on January 6th.

Setting aside the biased media narrative, what you have is a young white male the left would called privileged because, you know, he's a young white male, who says he supports Black Lives Matter and was attending in Kenosha to render medical aid and perhaps (I was never clear on this point) protect some private property. But that's not enough for these revolutionaries, they want to watch America burn so if he's not actively aiding in that goal then he's still the enemy to them. And given that all three men he shot were also white, it doesn't seem like their hatred of him was overtly racist, just that he wasn't rioting and destroying stuff.

I suspect the lesson Kyle has taken away from this entire episode is that you can't help people who don't want help, they want to watch the world burn. It's unfortunate an idealist young man had to learn such a harsh life lesson so early and so severely but hopefully it cements his resolve to change that which is in his power to change.

 

[maxipum]

Well, in defense of a national, searchable data base...

The same folks hollering about "Undocumented" started buying fake vaccination cards...

That makes it kind of hard to verify travelers have been vaccinated for the areas requiring it, like foreign countries.

A Evansville doctor said he's been offered between $100 & $800 to give people sterile water so they can get a vaccination card, but he gives them the vaccine anyway and considers the cash a "Tip".
... Sneaky, but they signed the consent form, and he's not going to falsify medial & government documents.

AND,
No private company is required to provide service if they choose not to if you aren't vaccinated...

Most people are "At Will" employees, meaning if the mandate comes down, they have every right to let those unvaccinated go.

I guess if you want to do that to yourself, it's your choice, but every choice comes with consequences...

This is just revenge porn for the people who bought in to the narrative. You just know he shuddered with pleasure when he read that lie somewhere. This is your brain on mainstream media. Sad

 

[BugI02]

That's kind of the point. One side wants to uphold what America stands for while the other side wants to undermine, destroy, and wipe away everything America stands for.

One side has been brainwashed to believe that America stands for racism and oppression

Not sure how they manage the cognitive dissonance that almost everybody else, including quite a few EU folks, would like to get here more than just about anything else

We need some kind of follow on to the Peace Corps, with mandatory service, that sends them to live and work in ****hole countries in the middle of their college 'education'. An exemption could be given for prior military service because it often amounts to the same thing

 

[jsx1043]

Well, in defense of a national, searchable data base...

The same folks hollering about "Undocumented" started buying fake vaccination cards...

That makes it kind of hard to verify travelers have been vaccinated for the areas requiring it, like foreign countries.

A Evansville doctor said he's been offered between $100 & $800 to give people sterile water so they can get a vaccination card, but he gives them the vaccine anyway and considers the cash a "Tip".
... Sneaky, but they signed the consent form, and he's not going to falsify medial & government documents.

AND,
No private company is required to provide service if they choose not to if you aren't vaccinated...

Most people are "At Will" employees, meaning if the mandate comes down, they have every right to let those unvaccinated go.

I guess if you want to do that to yourself, it's your choice, but every choice comes with consequences...

This drivel **** right here is why this site is dying.

Notice the lack of return traffic lately? I have. IYKYK



Oh, and as to the, “OMG THEY’RE CREATING A DATABASE TO TRACK, TRACE AND DATABASE ALL OF US AND TAKE AWAY OUR FREEDOMS!”

Well, no **** Sherlock. Many of us have been beating that drum since the beginning of the Great Reset 629 days ago. And I don’t mean that directly to you @Onebad06vtx, I mean that in the sense that so many people have their blinders on and absolutely refuse to see what’s happening before their very eyes and bow down to the status quo narrative and retreat into their sophistry and refusal to believe that life can and is changing around them.

Sorry, not sorry.

 

[BugI02]

This drivel **** right here is why this site is dying.

Notice the lack of return traffic lately? I have. IYKYK



Oh, and as to the, “OMG THEY’RE CREATING A DATABASE TO TRACK, TRACE AND DATABASE ALL OF US AND TAKE AWAY OUR FREEDOMS!”

Well, no **** Sherlock. Many of us have been beating that drum since the beginning of the Great Reset 629 days ago. And I don’t mean that directly to you @Onebad06vtx, I mean that in the sense that so many people have their blinders on and absolutely refuse to see what’s happening before their very eyes and bow down to the status quo narrative and retreat into their sophistry and refusal to believe that life can and is changing around them.

Sorry, not sorry.

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In before the usual suspect arrives to tell you {Let's see, one says one thing and the other says he is totally wrong, so ... triangulating ...} 'You're half wrong, and besides all the other tyrants do the same thing'

 

[BigRed]

Well, in defense of a national, searchable data base...

The same folks hollering about "Undocumented" started buying fake vaccination cards...

That makes it kind of hard to verify travelers have been vaccinated for the areas requiring it, like foreign countries.

A Evansville doctor said he's been offered between $100 & $800 to give people sterile water so they can get a vaccination card, but he gives them the vaccine anyway and considers the cash a "Tip".
... Sneaky, but they signed the consent form, and he's not going to falsify medial & government documents.

AND,
No private company is required to provide service if they choose not to if you aren't vaccinated...

Most people are "At Will" employees, meaning if the mandate comes down, they have every right to let those unvaccinated go.

I guess if you want to do that to yourself, it's your choice, but every choice comes with consequences...

As do yours and the choice for which you seem to advocate.

 

[Lmo1131]

Need a link to this vote and who the republicans were please

This sellout was named H.R. 550; Immunization Infrastructure Modernization Act

Here's the rollcall, with names of House Members and how the voted > https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2021388

There's a 'filter' on the page so you can search by "Party" and "State"

here's the screen shot

 

[oze]

This sellout was named H.R. 550; Immunization Infrastructure Modernization Act

Here's the rollcall, with names of House Members and how the voted > https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2021388

There's a 'filter' on the page so you can search by "Party" and "State"

here's the screen shot

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I emailed Banks last week to politely express my disappointment in his vote. I requested a reply, but as of yet, have not received one.

 

[JeepHammer]

This drivel **** right here is why this site is dying.

Notice the lack of return traffic lately? I have. IYKYK



Oh, and as to the, “OMG THEY’RE CREATING A DATABASE TO TRACK, TRACE AND DATABASE ALL OF US AND TAKE AWAY OUR FREEDOMS!”

Well, no **** Sherlock. Many of us have been beating that drum since the beginning of the Great Reset 629 days ago. And I don’t mean that directly to you @Onebad06vtx, I mean that in the sense that so many people have their blinders on and absolutely refuse to see what’s happening before their very eyes and bow down to the status quo narrative and retreat into their sophistry and refusal to believe that life can and is changing around them.

Sorry, not sorry.

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WAY too late...
629 days ago?

Try 40 years ago...

YOU (and everyone else) has virtually every move we've made documented, but not by who you think...
Most conspiracy theorists are always dead wrong, nothing new there.
Always looking the wrong direction...

If you ever saw your privately held "Credit Report" that about anyone can buy on line you would crap yourself.

Every phone number you ever had,
Every phone call you ever made on a long distance line,
Every cell phone call you ever made or received,
Knowing who your Internet provider was/is lets anyone with a warrant/access get your internet history,
And how long the call lasted,
Who you called the most,
The medical coding/billing history for every hospital/doctor visit you ever turned into insurance,
Every loan you ever got and it's payment history,
Every real property you ever owned,
Every vehicle you ever registered,
Who your insurance companies are and what you have insured,
What library books you checked out,
What credit cards you have,
If you use those store discount cards that get scanned, those companies can bring up everything you purchased,
Your criminal record,
Your military record,
Every job you ever paid taxes at,
Every year you filed a tax return,
... And a whole lot more...

I'm pretty boring, mine was 788 pages long a few years back when I saw my entire "Credit Report".
The security guy told me it's not unusual at all for reports to run into the thousands of pages...

Data mining is legal for the private sector but not for the government unless you are under investigation...
... So they simply buy your file from the data miners.

It's all been going on since computer memory/storage allowed for the size of the files, early/mid 80s
And it's there forever.

 

[JeepHammer]

This is just revenge porn for the people who bought in to the narrative. You just know he shuddered with pleasure when he read that lie somewhere. This is your brain on mainstream media. Sad

Nope, just your fantasy about anyone that doesn't agree with you.
I heard it here, didn't give it a second thought...

And other than a chuckle about the anti-vaxers paying for fake vaccination cards that will be useless, still don't care...

Not being a narcissist, I don't spend much time on the things I can't change.
No point is investing my time/effort in people that don't seem to care about themselves or people around them.
I can't change the rabid anti-vaxers opinions, so I don't much try.

I have sympathy for the Trump states that have the lowest vaccination rates,
Also the highest infection, death & hospitization rates, no one deserves to wind up that sick or dead.

On the other hand, it's evolution in action.
Often refered to as 'Darwinism', or 'Darwin Awards'.
Many have deliberately chosen to get sick, disabled or die, including one of my closest friends.

Just a damned shame these folks can't differentiate between medical & political issues...

 

[churchmouse]

Ahh yes, nothing to see here, just go back to your lives and ignore the evil ****suckers pulling the strings. Figured someone would come in to defend this ********. I'm shocked.

**** the vaccine, double **** the database and triple **** anyone who voted for this communist ****.

As always well said Amigo.

 

[churchmouse]

I struggle to understand how anyone can support what amounts to clear violations of everything this country is supposed to stand for simply because their side currently holds the reigns.

It really is that simple Phylo. And petty.

 

[churchmouse]

Uhh I’ll take **** that never happened for a 1000 Alex!!

Yup

 

[churchmouse]

This drivel **** right here is why this site is dying.

Notice the lack of return traffic lately? I have. IYKYK



Oh, and as to the, “OMG THEY’RE CREATING A DATABASE TO TRACK, TRACE AND DATABASE ALL OF US AND TAKE AWAY OUR FREEDOMS!”

Well, no **** Sherlock. Many of us have been beating that drum since the beginning of the Great Reset 629 days ago. And I don’t mean that directly to you @Onebad06vtx, I mean that in the sense that so many people have their blinders on and absolutely refuse to see what’s happening before their very eyes and bow down to the status quo narrative and retreat into their sophistry and refusal to believe that life can and is changing around them.

Sorry, not sorry.

View attachment 170374

This drivel **** right here is why this site is dying.

Notice the lack of return traffic lately? I have. IYKYK



Oh, and as to the, “OMG THEY’RE CREATING A DATABASE TO TRACK, TRACE AND DATABASE ALL OF US AND TAKE AWAY OUR FREEDOMS!”

Well, no **** Sherlock. Many of us have been beating that drum since the beginning of the Great Reset 629 days ago. And I don’t mean that directly to you @Onebad06vtx, I mean that in the sense that so many people have their blinders on and absolutely refuse to see what’s happening before their very eyes and bow down to the status quo narrative and retreat into their sophistry and refusal to believe that life can and is changing around them.

Sorry, not sorry.

View attachment 170374

What’s dying. Ingo…???
Not from my chair.

 

[tude]

Nope, just your fantasy about anyone that doesn't agree with you.
I heard it here, didn't give it a second thought...

And other than a chuckle about the anti-vaxers paying for fake vaccination cards that will be useless, still don't care...

Not being a narcissist, I don't spend much time on the things I can't change.
No point is investing my time/effort in people that don't seem to care about themselves or people around them.
I can't change the rabid anti-vaxers opinions, so I don't much try.

I have sympathy for the Trump states that have the lowest vaccination rates,
Also the highest infection, death & hospitization rates, no one deserves to wind up that sick or dead.

On the other hand, it's evolution in action.
Often refered to as 'Darwinism', or 'Darwin Awards'.
Many have deliberately chosen to get sick, disabled or die, including one of my closest friends.

Just a damned shame these folks can't differentiate between medical & political issues...

So why do you waste so much of your time and INK here?

 

[Pepi]

This thread is from CNN

 

[tude]

WAY too late...
629 days ago?

Try 40 years ago...

YOU (and everyone else) has virtually every move we've made documented, but not by who you think...
Most conspiracy theorists are always dead wrong, nothing new there.
Always looking the wrong direction...

If you ever saw your privately held "Credit Report" that about anyone can buy on line you would crap yourself.

Every phone number you ever had,
Every phone call you ever made on a long distance line,
Every cell phone call you ever made or received,
Knowing who your Internet provider was/is lets anyone with a warrant/access get your internet history,
And how long the call lasted,
Who you called the most,
The medical coding/billing history for every hospital/doctor visit you ever turned into insurance,
Every loan you ever got and it's payment history,
Every real property you ever owned,
Every vehicle you ever registered,
Who your insurance companies are and what you have insured,
What library books you checked out,
What credit cards you have,
If you use those store discount cards that get scanned, those companies can bring up everything you purchased,
Your criminal record,
Your military record,
Every job you ever paid taxes at,
Every year you filed a tax return,
... And a whole lot more...

I'm pretty boring, mine was 788 pages long a few years back when I saw my entire "Credit Report".
The security guy told me it's not unusual at all for reports to run into the thousands of pages...

Data mining is legal for the private sector but not for the government unless you are under investigation...
... So they simply buy your file from the data miners.

It's all been going on since computer memory/storage allowed for the size of the files, early/mid 80s
And it's there forever.

Only 788 pages for someone that has posted 788 pages telling others of their great accomplishments and how they are so much wiser than the average bear.

 

[phylodog]

Oh, now I get it. Since data collection and sale is a thing we should simply welcome a new opportunity for our increasingly communist government to further restrict our rights. All of a sudden, requiring a compliance Covid passport to go to the store seems like a great idea.

Thanks for setting us all straight.

I keep forgetting that all of the information available on this vaccine, some coming direct from the manufacturers themselves, shows that it's 100% safe and effective. Just get the vaccine and all your problems are over. If you're lucky enough to live through it you'll enjoy your new government issued myocarditis and lifelong uncertainty about what other bonus benefits you'll be entitled to down the road.

Who needs a fake vaccine card? I sure as hell don't, sign me up for all of the jabs I can get and I'd like a tattoo on my forehead so I won't have to waste time talking, people will just know I'm two IQ points ahead of a lemming and I'll be accepted to the cool kids table much quicker! Hopefully some more leftist lapdogs will come in here to further put all of our minds at ease and explain how the evil they so joyously long for is really a utopia. I know it's difficult to imagine things getting any better than they are right now but the freedom loving leftists are not even one year in to their dream of converting this country into a **** hole. It's gonna get so much better, just wait!