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hoosierdoc
Freed prisoner
Sorry, I'm a lateral professional, you need to talk to my partner who specialized in the medial side.
On a serious note... was this a pediatric dentist's office? I suspect so. Having non-patients and non-employees in a procedure room may be an issue for OSHA, but I don't know.
On a serious note... was this a pediatric dentist's office? I suspect so. Having non-patients and non-employees in a procedure room may be an issue for OSHA, but I don't know.
It's a perversion of the law. The part they are trying to comply with doesn't require the parents to be absent so that the child's privacy is protected. It's to protect the privacy of other patients who might be within hearing/sight of the parents. I just received an email on this. Let me see if I can dig it up.
http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?SEC={0342653C-C245-4C68-9B78-D606894369E7}
http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?SEC={0342653C-C245-4C68-9B78-D606894369E7}
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It's absolute nonsense. If that is their explanation ( to protect the privacy of the patient in the next bay) then each patient is invading the privacy of each other patient.
We encountered this policy at a pediatric dentist's office once. Among other reasons, it turns out they didn't want parents to see how they physically restrained the kids to keep them still to work on. That was our last trip to that office. That wasn't the last we heard about her though. Our regular dentist told us she repeatedly encouraged him to raise his rates so that they could drive up the local usual and customary rates honored by the insurance company. His rates stayed the same.
hoosierdoc
Freed prisoner
Most parents give anxiety to their kids at the dentist and do NOT make their kids easier to do procedures on. Sign should say "I'm a professional, you make your kid worse, wait outside"
level.eleven
Shooter
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I've not received any new in-servicing or notifications of the HIPAA laws. I know OSHA regs have changed to meet NATO standards as far as MSDS's are concerned, but no. I call it a twisting of the arm to keep kids and parents from giving each other anxiety. Thankfully our kids dentist is my dentist. He knows if they try this BS I will go elsewhere.
hoosierdoc
Freed prisoner
You guys don't get it. Try doing dental work on kids with parents present. The parents make it much, much more difficult. The best thing for the majority of kiddos is to not have parents there.
I'd fire you immediately. Instead of kicking the parents out, why doesn't the medical professional help the parent help the child.
I've seen a smiliar sign before, but I was told that its purpose was to give the child a chance to speak without the parents in case he/she had private issues like birth control or abuse to talk about.
hoosierdoc
Freed prisoner
You wouldn't get the chance to fire me, I wouldn't work on your kid (if I were a pediatric dentist). You can't "help" fear and terror instilled in them by their parents' anxiety and fears. But you can stop it from starting by disallowing the parents to be present.
OP hasn't stated which type of facility this was at, but I'm betting on pediatric dentist. The one my kids go to has the same policy, but they just say "no parents". It works fine. My kids do fine. They bring us back afterwards to review things and answer any questions we have, after the cleanings are done. If a cavity is found or other work needed, that's discussed in a consultation room and then you go back to the waiting room.
So much for all the "Take 'em to the range" suggestions.
Sorry, doc. Your argument may be an accurate representation of reality, but your solution sucks. Even if that's the only way to deal with that particular child/parent, it's unacceptable to make it a universal policy for all parents.
hoosierdoc
Freed prisoner
It's not "my solution", I'm just an observer here. I always allow parents to be present when I do procedures on their kids, but a few times we kick them out if they are nuts and making their kid nuts.
Does anyone take their kids to a pediatric dentist who parents to be chairside?
http://www.1800dentist.com/parents-in-operatory/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21275276
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03262807#
Does anyone take their kids to a pediatric dentist who parents to be chairside?
http://www.1800dentist.com/parents-in-operatory/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21275276
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF03262807#
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I hear the backtracking beeps. And contradictions ah-oogas. It's not your solution, but you do it? Okay. Not sure how that works. Face it, you defended the universal application of the rule based on the existence of a few.
I do (did, see below). Our pediatric dentist is great and shows me areas where attention is needed when I am there with them. And my presence was critical for keeping the boys calm during their first visits. We've been going for several years now and I no longer go back with them unless the boys ask for me to. They rarely do. I haven't accompanied them the last 2 or 3 times they've gone back. But if they wanted me to, I would. And if I were denied that right, I would leave immediately.
hoosierdoc
Freed prisoner
I'm not backtracking, I'm not a dentist. I am discussing dentistry disallowing parent presence. I stated in my own practice I don't have a problem with it but I can still defend the practice others chose to do.
Again: I was responding as if I was a pediatric dentist. I'm not. I do however have a keen insight into what it's like when the parent is in the room for most kids during dental procedures.
Again: I was responding as if I was a pediatric dentist. I'm not. I do however have a keen insight into what it's like when the parent is in the room for most kids during dental procedures.
You edited your reply.
What a childish response. "You can't fire me because I quit."
hoosierdoc
Freed prisoner
I edited before I saw your response.
"childish"? It's not as you put it. It's "I'm the dentist, if you don't like it here you are free to leave". How do you fire someone before they do anything? My comment reflected a lack of engagement because you have said you wouldn't go to a dentist with that policy.
I am so confused. Also didn't plan to argue worthless points with internet people today.
