High end AKs

[Michael762]

Here are my reasons:
He thinks that he is the only person who can make a quality AK
Trash talks all other builders
Trash talks anyone who disagrees with him
He is charging $2400 for a rifle that should cost $800.

Start with your base rifle costing maybe 6-700, remove FSB and gas block, add a BOLT ON FS/GB combo (can buy a true Russian one you pin for $100) add $60 RD stock adapter (which sucks and strips the screws out making you use loctite) add a $10 buffer tube $6 castle nut, $40 magpul stock, and $130 cerekote job. How the hell does that equal $2400?

Then he goes on saying his rifles are "Battle Proven" because he dumped mags down the range at paper while he wore his bump helmet? Yea ok lol Show me where in a war a RD rifle was used then I'll believe it.

And cussing like he does in his little reviews, really doesn't show professionalism.



There is a reason on AK files there is a thread to make fun of him called Jim Fullerofhimself

 

[223 Gunner]

I have never priced their guns, but those all seem to be good reasons.

 

[Hexa-Tula]

Here are my reasons:
He thinks that he is the only person who can make a quality AK
Trash talks all other builders
Trash talks anyone who disagrees with him
He is charging $2400 for a rifle that should cost $800.

Start with your base rifle costing maybe 6-700, remove FSB and gas block, add a BOLT ON FS/GB combo (can buy a true Russian one you pin for $100) add $60 RD stock adapter (which sucks and strips the screws out making you use loctite) add a $10 buffer tube $6 castle nut, $40 magpul stock, and $130 cerekote job. How the hell does that equal $2400?

Then he goes on saying his rifles are "Battle Proven" because he dumped mags down the range at paper while he wore his bump helmet? Yea ok lol Show me where in a war a RD rifle was used then I'll believe it.

And cussing like he does in his little reviews, really doesn't show professionalism.



There is a reason on AK files there is a thread to make fun of him called Jim Fullerofhimself

So, I have nothing in this. But your "rough numbers" add up to $946 if you say that you give $600 for the base rifle.

First off, if they have $946 in a rifle, they obviously have to mark it up enough to make a profit.

On top of that, you've got the cost of an FFL and the renewal of.

You've also got an SOT to pay for so you can manufacture class III weapons.

You've got employees to pay.

They probably have to pay rent on the building they operate out of, and if they're not paying rent I'd assume they're paying monthly payments.

Also, don't forget about the excise tax of 11% on every rifle manufactured.

I've seen many posts on Facebook from Jim Fuller saying good things about DDI, and Mesa Kinetic Research.

Like I said, I have nothing in this. I've never met or spoke to him. But you saying that they charge $2400 for a rifle that should cost $800? That's insane.

 

[Michael762]

take it as you want. But I will never own one, nor will I ever own one of his parts... I delayed my current build just to find a new adapter because Canis is nowhere to be found and I'm sure as hell not putting RD on my rifle.

and here is one thread for a good read

New Rifle Dynamics Beast Really? - The AK Files Forums

 

[Hexa-Tula]

Like I said, I'm not taking a side in the matter in any way. People have their opinions, and that's absolutely fine. All I wanted to point out is that I'm 100% sure it costs more than people think to operate a business manufacturing firearms.

 

[knutty]

I have an Arsenal SLR 107 and Norinco 56s. Both are top notch. DDI is releasing a 100% US made AK soon that looks very impressive. They are using hammer forged bolts, carriers and trunnions. If executed properly, it will be an outstanding rifle.

 

[output]

You want rifle dynamics or Kerbs. Copper custom armament in Valpo usually has a few Krebs rifles on the wall, if you want to take a look at them. David is a super cool guy and very knowledgeable. I have both RD and Krebs and both are great rifles.