House Dems pushing SemiAutomatic Weapons ban.

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  • cobber

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    Oh so we're not allowed to have a strong weapon for our protection. Then you have that smart ass Chinese spy banger Eric "nuk'em" Smallwell replying to Massie saying well if the DoE should'nt have them then why should you? No were saying the opposite. If the DoE has them then why shouldn't we?
    Or, why do the DoE and DoA have them at all?
     

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    That guy was gun-incompetent.

    And yet, I've had anti's use that guy as an example.
    Even though I could quote special forces guys disagreeing and making fun of him, all the anti's cared was that this guy was a higher rank, therefore his opinion was worth more.
    Even though Generals DON'T CARRY GUNS.
    Uhhh . . . US Army and USMC generals carry pistols. They're issued their own personal one when promoted to BG (one star) and can keep it upon retiring if they pay the U.S. Gov't for it, which nearly all do. I believe USAF generals are also issued them . . . at one time they were in the past. Do they carry them? Doubtful considering their duty positions and locations in relation to the FLOT (Front Line of Troops). USN admirals? I've no clue about them.

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    actaeon277

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    Uhhh . . . US Army and USMC generals carry pistols. They're issued their own personal one when promoted to BG (one star) and can keep it upon retiring if they pay the U.S. Gov't for it, which nearly all do. I believe USAF generals are also issued them . . . at one time they were in the past. Do they carry them? Doubtful considering their duty positions and locations in relation to the FLOT (Front Line of Troops). USN admirals? I've no clue about them.

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    Having a pistol, may mean it's in a box, in a closet.
    They generally aren't whipping it out on a day to day basis.
     

    JAL

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    Having a pistol, may mean it's in a box, in a closet.
    They generally aren't whipping it out on a day to day basis.
    When they're in a "Hostile Area" - i.e. what civilians call a Combat Zone, it's strapped on. Never saw one without it . . . and I saw more than a few. The same applies to Private Slicksleeve, Corporal Tentpeg and Sergeant Wintergreen. Their rifles are kept in high security unit arms room vaults . . . locked into racks . . . except for very specific training or annual qualification that requires weapons . . . until they're deployed to a Hostile Area. They're not slinging them around on a day to day basis.

    Some generals carry concealed pistols, and they're allowed to. They're not surrounded by armed guards when in garrison.

    John
     

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    Yet another reminder that "law enforcement" exceptions to infringements of rights are inherently unconstitutional, as they violate the Equal Protection clause. And when the government seeks to privilege itself with arms that it explicitly denies to the people, such action is not only an explicit violation of second-amendment protections, but it exemplifies the very reason the second amendment was put in place.
    The govt has to buy their compliance.
     

    actaeon277

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    When they're in a "Hostile Area" - i.e. what civilians call a Combat Zone, it's strapped on. Never saw one without it . . . and I saw more than a few. The same applies to Private Slicksleeve, Corporal Tentpeg and Sergeant Wintergreen. Their rifles are kept in high security unit arms room vaults . . . locked into racks . . . except for very specific training or annual qualification that requires weapons . . . until they're deployed to a Hostile Area. They're not slinging them around on a day to day basis.

    Some generals carry concealed pistols, and they're allowed to. They're not surrounded by armed guards when in garrison.

    John
    Most special forces types will have more firearms experience in a day, then a general will have in a year.
    How many of those Generals "carrying" in certain areas, are pulling them out and firing them?

    And yes, many in the military don't carry.
    Which is why, when someone says... I have "military training" I just look at the sky.

    And infantry in Iraq or Afghan tended to have a bit of firearms experience.
     

    JAL

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    Most special forces types will have more firearms experience in a day, then a general will have in a year.
    How many of those Generals "carrying" in certain areas, are pulling them out and firing them?

    And yes, many in the military don't carry.
    Which is why, when someone says... I have "military training" I just look at the sky.

    And infantry in Iraq or Afghan tended to have a bit of firearms experience.
    Uhhh . . . when in a Hazardous Area . . . aka "combat zone" . . . EVERYONE military carries a weapon except chaplains. Chaplains have a "Chaplain's Assistant", aka an enlisted Religious Affairs Specialist, who is armed and whose duty, among many, is protecting the chaplain. At one time AMEDD personnel (medics, doctors, psychologists, nurses, dentists and veterinarians) didn't carry weapons and they wore white armbands with red crosses on them plus the same symbol on their helmets. They've ditched the armbands and medical helmet covers as it made them targets and carry weapons now - and have for a couple decades (since Desert Storm). They're expected to annually qualify with their assigned weapons. EVERY soldier is expected to act as Infantry when needed and trains routinely on Common Soldier Skills which go well beyond shooting at some target. It includes instant military vehicle and aircraft ID, basic small unit fire and maneuver techniques, ambush avoidance and response, machine gun operation (including Ma Deuce), grenade launchers, shoulder fired anti-armor weapons, and a host of other skills. That applies to cooks, truck drivers, vehicle mechanics, finance corps, postal clerks, personnel records keepers, and military band members. The latter are used in an infantry type role for maintaining major HQ defenses when deployed (e.g. division level and above) along with some elements of the division's MP company. All units of every type are responsible for their own defenses and must maintain manned defensive perimeters using their own personnel . . . hence the common soldier infantry skills and training to do so effectively and survive in the battle space.

    Soldiers don't go walking around every day at Fort Riley, KS - or Fort Lewis, WA, or Fort Hood, TX - or when assigned to NATO duty stations in Europe - with their weapons slung over their shoulders. Not even the Infantry. That's what I meant by "garrison". Deploy to a Hazardous Area, and you're issued a weapon with a basic ammunition load. Doesn't matter who you are and what you do . . . except for the Chaplains.

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    The govt has to buy their compliance.
    Perhaps someone should challenge that. I think the SCOTUS fireworks would be even better than Dobbs, what with the left's cognitive dissonance between ACAB/Defund The Police and having to defend LEO over civilian disarmament.
     

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    FPC sent me an email stated that the vote on H.R. 1808 has been pushed off until sometime in August. Supposedly not enough support in the House.
    If that's the case, then something caused it to be postponed Most likely short on votes. They were trying to force a vote by the end of the week before the break.
     

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    Have'nt seen anything yet on the other proposal H.R. 2814 which seeks to repeal the federal PLCAA law that protects gun manufacturers from frivolous lawsuits that try to hold them responsible for a third-party criminal use of their firearms.
     
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