How can I make this clear for you?

[Cozy439]

How does this protester not understand English? How well did this officer do in trying to make thing clear?

https://www.facebook.com/100011275926869/videos/1181156072270246/?id=100011275926869

 

[Sigblitz]

Is it a march or a protest?

A march will end at a point and the organizer may speak to the marchers within their group. No permit is required. The ACLU says it is ok to march in the street if not impeding traffic. Which is true, if there's no sidewalk or easement. But that guy believes he has the ACLU's blessing to march on any street. And really it's the fault of the ACLU for not being clear.

A march may end at a protest, rallying the masses. And that requires applying for an event permit 60 days ahead of time with the local police, paying a permit fee, and leaving a safety contact number.

I wouldn't say he's dumb. He is ignorant of the law and resistant to education.

 

[Hohn]

Is it a march or a protest?

A march will end at a point and the organizer may speak to the marchers within their group. No permit is required. The ACLU says it is ok to march in the street if not impeding traffic. Which is true, if there's no sidewalk or easement. But that guy believes he has the ACLU's blessing to march on any street. And really it's the fault of the ACLU for not being clear.

A march may end at a protest, rallying the masses. And that requires applying for an event permit 60 days ahead of time with the local police, paying a permit fee, and leaving a safety contact number.

I wouldn't say he's dumb. He is ignorant of the law and resistant to education.

The courts, not the ACLU, interpret the law.

 

[HoughMade]

An hour +43? Can someone cliff note this thing.

The courts, not the ACLU, interpret the law.

Yes. Governments can place reasonable time, place and manner restrictions on the exercise of speech as long as they are viewpoint neutral.

 

[rosejm]

An hour +43? Can someone cliff note this thing.

Jackbooted Thug: "You can march, but you have to stay on the sidewalk. If you don't and cause a public safety issue, you'll be breaking the law"
Videographer Thug: "I can do what I want, I'm exercising my rights"

JT: "No, you can't. Here's the IC (highlighted) law(s) you'll be breaking."
VT: "That doesn't matter, we can exercise our 1A any way we want."

JT: "Yes it does"
VT: "No it doesn't"

I think that covers the high points. There may be some additional on-scene "legal" arguments, but that's the jist of the action.

The relevant stuff starts well into that 1:43:00 live stream.
EDIT: maybe 1:20:00 or so?

 

[HoughMade]

Thanks for the pinpoint.

OK...wowzers.

I like marches and protests whether I'm 100% on board with the issues they are promoting. Rights that don't get exercised, go away, so they are protecting all of our freedom of speach.

That being said, as far as I can tell, the cop was correct. Reasonable time, place and manner restrictions that are viewpoint neutral.

...Oh, the the lady that was speaking before that...the "we're all gods" theology? Oof, but there's another thread for that discussion.

 

[larcat]

Without having watched the video...

...Oh, the the lady that was speaking before that...the "we're all gods" theology? Oof, but there's another thread for that discussion.

Probably a 5%er.

 

[NKBJ]

Is it a march or a protest?

A march will end at a point and the organizer may speak to the marchers within their group. No permit is required. The ACLU says it is ok to march in the street if not impeding traffic. Which is true, if there's no sidewalk or easement. But that guy believes he has the ACLU's blessing to march on any street. And really it's the fault of the ACLU for not being clear.

A march may end at a protest, rallying the masses. And that requires applying for an event permit 60 days ahead of time with the local police, paying a permit fee, and leaving a safety contact number.

I wouldn't say he's dumb. He is ignorant of the law and resistant to education.

Heh, anyone could be at fault for believing something said by the ACLU.

 

[Sigblitz]

I'll add, there are codes about protesting in neighborhoods. I guess if you just drive your parade by someone's house, that's probably not illegal. But get out of your car at their house and protest.....

I recall people driving through the police chief's neighborhood.

 

[KellyinAvon]

I'll add, there are codes about protesting in neighborhoods. I guess if you just drive your parade by someone's house, that's probably not illegal. But get out of your car at their house and protest.....

I recall people driving through the police chief's neighborhood.

Nice neighborhood too.