How not to rob a gun store

[frenchiectfd2203]

It was a .45, I was here in southern Indiana when this happened, pretty sure I felt the muzzle blast because........IT WAS A.45!!!!!!

Seriously though, yeah, dead turd looked like he became dead before hitting the floor.

HAHA, I chuckled a little bit there.

 

[churchmouse]

Well of course the .45 caliber is outdated, I know a guy that said soon they will stop making the 1911 platform because of its flaws and hiccups. I mean seriously who carries those heavy useless guns anyways...??

 

[TRW]

Here is some local news coverage with video interviews of the man who defended his shop. The news stories give a fair bit more detail about what happened exactly.

Gun shop owner who shot, killed robbery suspect: 'I had no other choice' | 11alive.com

Suspect killed, another sought in Mableton robbery attempt | WAGA

 

[Alamo]

Gonna be a lot of mellows harshed if it turns out the gun store owner was shooting .38 Super...

 

[Bigtanker]

Here is some local news coverage with video interviews of the man who defended his shop. The news stories give a fair bit more detail about what happened exactly.

Gun shop owner who shot, killed robbery suspect: 'I had no other choice' | 11alive.com

Maybe they need to change name the station to 1911Alive!!

 

[littletommy]

Gonna be a lot of mellows harshed if it turns out the gun store owner was shooting .38 Super...

 

[Brad69]

Let all the .45 guys not forget the crossroads mall shooting. Where a crazed guy went down several times got back up and still was being crazy.
He was using Winchester STX 230 grain IMO that was the issue if you watch the video the guy was not bleeding out quickly I would assume over expanding and shallow penetration.
I would bet lunch 230FMJ would have stopped it in two rounds!

 

[Trigger Time]

There is no magic bullet. only skilled shot placement

 

[ghitch75]

There is no magic bullet. only skilled shot placement

very true TT......just read a story of a cop that hit a guy in the femur at 80y with a HP 45ACP and it shattered it......good for the shop owner....anyone walk in to my place with a mask on would get the same....

 

[churchmouse]

There is no magic bullet. only skilled shot placement

Bingo

 

[drop45]

Can you guys tell if he went to slide lock and then followed up by a quick mag change. It sure looked like he did. Pretty seamless too.

 

[littletommy]

There is no magic bullet. only skilled shot placement

That's for damn sure!
I don't know if good guy was skilled, or lucky, or both. I'm gonna go with both judging from the video, and that's not to take anything away from GG, he knew what to do in the ****ty situation handed to him, and he did it well. Considering dead turd, and most likely the other turd, already had guns drawn, I know I would feel very lucky to have escaped unharmed from that situation.

 

[littletommy]

Can you guys tell if he went to slide lock and then followed up by a quick mag change. It sure looked like he did. Pretty seamless too.

Wow, after watching it several times, it sure looks like he did!

 

[Brad69]

Yeah we all know about shot placement he put 6 rounds into the guys chest and back.
The crazed immigrant got up three times while a very well trained guy shot him.
I still continue to believe that some of the ashtray sized hollow points over expand and under Penetrate.
Look at the police departments that are switching away from the .40?

I still consider the 230 FMJ as a viable defense round after all it's final wound Channel size is .45 !
Two holes to bleed out of is more better than one!

 

[indyjoe]

There is no magic bullet. only skilled shot placement

This is what you read again when you think that .45 is the end all and be all.

https://www.policeone.com/police-he...ne-cop-carries-145-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job/

I slowed this down in a video editor to try to figure out how many shots the perp and store clerk got off. I decided to throw it up, in case someone else would like to see in slow motion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e09ztHytAX8&feature=youtu.be

It looks like there is a place where the thumb is manipulated. It could be a tactical reload, but happens off screen. Pure speculation though. I think I counted 8 rounds, but the 20 fps interlaced source loses a bunch of info.

 

[Brad69]

Here is some great information on this subject.

If it matters to anyone the .357 Magnum seems to be the best round according to the fire fight results. I guess that would cover 10mm,.38 super,.357sig?

The Gun Zone -- FBI Handgun Wounding Factors and Effectiveness

 

[88E30M50]

Shot placement possibly.

OI heard on Ingo that the .45 was an outdated caliber especially when fired from the outdated platform such as a 1911.

It's an old caliber, shot through an old gun that's carried by old fuds. But, damned if it can't be wonderfully effective when that old fud knows what he's doing.

 

[Spike Jones 5 2002]

This is what you read again when you think that .45 is the end all and be all.

https://www.policeone.com/police-he...ne-cop-carries-145-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job/

I slowed this down in a video editor to try to figure out how many shots the perp and store clerk got off. I decided to throw it up, in case someone else would like to see in slow motion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e09ztHytAX8&feature=youtu.be

It looks like there is a place where the thumb is manipulated. It could be a tactical reload, but happens off screen. Pure speculation though. I think I counted 8 rounds, but the 20 fps interlaced source loses a bunch of info.

With The slow motion I seen that the showcase was the last thing the perf did.
At first I though the gun on the right on the floor was dropped by the second perf.
As many times I watched. I could not see to count any rounds being fired.


Where did you get the program that slowed down the video?

 

[STEEL CORE]

OK .........................All lives matter then.

 

[churchmouse]

B**** LIVES SPLATTER !

Aw geez man......................