IDPA is SERIOUS BUSINESS.

[rhino]

Okay, IDPA bending over for Smith & Wesson for their 1911 with the slide cuts reminds me of a similar thing in USPSA.

Until few years ago, suppressors (sound) were treated the same was as compensators and muzzle brakes on rifles in USPSA 3-gun tournaments and Multi-gun. This was appropriate because in addition to reducing sound and muzzle flash, suppressors do a fantastic job of reducing felt recoil and muzzle rise. So, they were subject to the same rules as compensators/flash hiders in terms of maximum dimensions allowed in Limited and Tactical divisions. Then all of a sudden suppressors were no longer consider compensators or muzzles brakes. The weak, flimsy rationale given by the board was that since they don't have ports venting gases outward, they were not muzzle brakes or compensators. That's BS.

And here is the rest of the story ... it was at the same time Surefire was getting into the sport as a big sponsor. They of course make really nice suppressors that are smaller than most of the competition, but bigger than what was allowed in Limited and Tactical for a muzzle device. So after that convenient decision, those products could be used in those divisions thereafter. Coincidence? Maybe, but I don't think so.

That irritated me just as much then as this IDPA thing does now.

 

[rvb]

that does sound hinky, but at least they didn't only allow SF cans. that alone is a big difference over the idpa S&W slide cuts thing.
Not sure if this definition has changed in the rule book over the years??

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Compensator A device fitted to the muzzle end of a barrel to counter muzzle rise (usually by externally diverting​

escaping gasses).

"Usually" is a tricky word to use in a rule.....

-rvb
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[rhino]

that does sound hinky, but at least they didn't only allow SF cans. that alone is a big difference over the idpa S&W slide cuts thing.
Not sure if this definition has changed in the rule book over the years??

"Usually" is a tricky word to use in a rule.....

-rvb
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Agreed. This is why they should let people who not shooters but who have technical writing skills review the rules before they publish them. What may seem clear to them (because they know what they're talking about) may not be so clear to a third part.

And, the ruling was bogus BS.

 

[jakemartens]

This makes me want to go and beat up on IDPA kids.

 

[rhino]

This makes me want to go and beat up on IDPA kids.

Bully!

 

[jakemartens]

Bully!

Hey
why not, my vest fits again, so does my Tailor Tactical Belt.
My gamer vest is so old it is a Royal Robbins (pre 5.11)

I may still have the flat plastic inserts with the lead weights glued on that I would slide into the inner side pockets to make it fling open easier,
I also still have the Domke photo vest with the huge side pockets to dump mags in, the under the pants knee pads....I had all the gamer stuff

 

[rhino]

Hey
why not, my vest fits again, so does my Tailor Tactical Belt.
My gamer vest is so old it is a Royal Robbins (pre 5.11)

I may still have the flat plastic inserts with the lead weights glued on that I would slide into the inner side pockets to make it fling open easier,
I also still have the Domke photo vest with the huge side pockets to dump mags in, the under the pants knee pads....I had all the gamer stuff

Gee, I wonder ... were you, by any chance, wearing any of that gear on . . .
THE DAY THE PANTS FAILED?!?!?

 

[jakemartens]

Gee, I wonder ... were you, by any chance, wearing any of that gear on . . .
THE DAY THE PANTS FAILED?!?!?

Yes, yes I was and we all could see what you were wearing too...more than we wanted to

 

[rhino]

Yes, yes I was and we all could see what you were wearing too...more than we wanted to

More importantly, you saw what I was not wearing.

 

[rvb]

I also still have the ... under the pants knee pads....I had all the gamer stuff

I still use my super spy under cover gamer idpa knee pads. Will use them this weekend actually.... helping my dad put down some hardwood flooring....

that's REAL WORLD, yo.

-rvb

 

[rhino]

rvb ... don't forget to click on the pants link above. You need to read it and form an indelible mental image while doing so.

 

[jakemartens]

More importantly, you saw what I was not wearing.

yeah, no garters.....lost $20 on that bet

 

[rvb]

I believe I've read that before.... Once was enough. ... more than enough.
-rvb

 

[rhino]

I believe I've read that before.... Once was enough. ... more than enough.
-rvb

Your words say "No!" but your eyes say, "Oh, yes!"

 

[riverman67]

I heard a very well reasoned argument once about the three things that you could do on your knees.
Only one of them, praying, was a good thing.
You guys are telling me that knee pads are real world,IDPA gear?

Yeah I'll pass

 

[rhino]

I heard a very well reasoned argument once about the three things that you could do on your knees.
Only one of them, praying, was a good thing.
You guys are telling me that knee pads are real world,IDPA gear?

Yeah I'll pass

No, actually. IDPA rules disallow knee pads ... if you can see them. You are allowed to wear soft knee pads under your pants. If you can see them (like if you are wearing shorts), they are prohibited. How's that for pathetic?


Naturally, when I have to kneel during an IDPA match, I put on my knee pads. Fortunately the SOs in my squads have been cool about it.

 

[Bosshoss]

Well we are almost at 300 posts in this thread.
Let me try and remember this:
IDPA rules are stupid like the people who run the organization.
USPSA will get you killed on the streets
USPSA rule changes suck
Revolvers suck
Master IDPA = B class USPSA
IDPA has stupid forms they REQUIRE you to sign before you can shoot
IDPA you can't be a member and say IDPA sucks even if you think it does
People in charge of IDPA are idiots
People in charge of USPSA are idiots
Revolver rule change has destroyed USPSA and IDPA
People have no trouble with smart phones and computers and the internet yet can't or won't do kindle scoring
Suppressors in 3 gun?
Knee pads rule in IDPA if hidden
Pants rip on the range sometime

I'm sure I missed quite a few.
Epic thread
Man this weather needs to break people have spent to much time cooped up this winter.
I think I'm going to Rockcastle Sat. and blow off some cobwebs.

 

[jakemartens]

Well we are almost at 300 posts in this thread.
Let me try and remember this:
IDPA rules are stupid like the people who run the organization.
USPSA will get you killed on the streets
USPSA rule changes suck
Revolvers suck
Master IDPA = B class USPSA
IDPA has stupid forms they REQUIRE you to sign before you can shoot
IDPA you can't be a member and say IDPA sucks even if you think it does
People in charge of IDPA are idiots
People in charge of USPSA are idiots
Revolver rule change has destroyed USPSA and IDPA
People have no trouble with smart phones and computers and the internet yet can't or won't do kindle scoring
Suppressors in 3 gun?
Knee pads rule in IDPA if hidden
Pants rip on the range sometime

I'm sure I missed quite a few.
Epic thread
Man this weather needs to break people have spent to much time cooped up this winter.
I think I'm going to Rockcastle Sat. and blow off some cobwebs.

Not bad

 

[Grelber]

Man this weather needs to break people have spent to much time cooped up this winter. I think I'm going to Rockcastle Sat. and blow off some cobwebs.

Me too. Nothing like all the bright colors & shiny trinkets of a USPSA match to make you think of flowers and springtime.

 

[rvb]

300 posts in this thread.
I'm sure I missed quite a few.
Epic thread

woot for #300.
speed reloads rule.

-rvb