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  • shibumiseeker

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    Socialism is using the government to control the means of production.

    Crony capitalism is socialism.

    We have had a socialist, of one flavor or another, in the white house my entire life.

    Trump isn't going to fix that. Neither is a would-be theocrat like Cruz. Republicans are as much a part of the problem as the socialists you deride.

    There is no solution coming from the American Political Class, only more of the same: political theater used to cover the fleecing of America.

    So, now we get Clinton. Yay for us.

    Sadly I cannot rep you for this as I have to spread it around first. We have no real choices, only the illusion of choices.
     

    seedubs1

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    I also voted in the primaries against Hillary Clinton. I think a lot of others did the same. Because **** HRC. I'm squarely in the "anyone but HRC" camp. I would actually vote for Hitler before I'd vote for her.

    I feel like I need a shower after going into the voting booth.....

    I walked in this morning and asked for the Libertarian ticket. She said, "You can't have that one. Today you have to vote Republican or Democrat since it's the primary." I said, "OK; give me the Republican ballot." and as I walked away, a lightbulb went off in my head. "No, wait a minute, give me the Democrat one." She signaled to the dude at the insanely silly iPad contraption looking thing and indicated to click the D ballot.

    I cast my first vote in the Hoosier for Booynie Sanduhs. Because f#@k Hillary, that's why.

    It was mathematically impossible for anyone in this primary to get the Republican nomination so I figured instead of wasting a vote on Kasich (because no way I'd vote for Trump or Cruz) I'd play head games (see what I did there???) with Hillary.

    Free college, here I come!
     

    Kutnupe14

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    I also voted in the primaries against Hillary Clinton. I think a lot of others did the same. Because **** HRC. I'm squarely in the "anyone but HRC" camp. I would actually vote for Hitler before I'd vote for her.

    I feel like I need a shower after going into the voting booth.....

    Not sure if srs, or doesn't know exactly who Hitler was
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Seeing both Trump and Bernie win proves to me, Indiana is one of the few states with their heads screwed on properly.

    Tonight has made me very proud of this state.

    Indiana, and the rest of America, has proven to me that Americans are easily distracted by shiny rocks. I've listened to conservatives for YEARS complain about not having a true representative to vote for. One finally shows ups, puts forth a realistic platform, and loses to a reality tv celeb, known for bad investments, changing wives more often than tires, hobnobbing with liberals, and hyperbole.... and that's the guy who gets the nod. Obama started the trend, and with the nomination of Trump, America has officially entered the "cult of personality" realm.

    Kut (sees the writing on the wall)
     

    henktermaat

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    Indiana, and the rest of America, has proven to me that Americans are easily distracted by shiny rocks. I've listened to conservatives for YEARS complain about not having a true representative to vote for. One finally shows ups, puts forth a realistic platform, and loses to a reality tv celeb, known for bad investments, changing wives more often than tires, hobnobbing with liberals, and hyperbole.... and that's the guy who gets the nod. Obama started the trend, and with the nomination of Trump, America has officially entered the "cult of personality" realm.

    Kut (sees the writing on the wall)

    Spot on.
     

    BigBoxaJunk

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    I walked in this morning and asked for the Libertarian ticket. She said, "You can't have that one. Today you have to vote Republican or Democrat since it's the primary." I said, "OK; give me the Republican ballot." and as I walked away, a lightbulb went off in my head. "No, wait a minute, give me the Democrat one." She signaled to the dude at the insanely silly iPad contraption looking thing and indicated to click the D ballot.

    I cast my first vote in the Hoosier for Booynie Sanduhs. Because f#@k Hillary, that's why.

    It was mathematically impossible for anyone in this primary to get the Republican nomination so I figured instead of wasting a vote on Kasich (because no way I'd vote for Trump or Cruz) I'd play head games (see what I did there???) with Hillary.

    Free college, here I come!

    Good thing we need an ID to vote, so that people can't intentionally violate the rules.
     

    canterbc

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    Indiana, and the rest of America, has proven to me that Americans are easily distracted by shiny rocks. I've listened to conservatives for YEARS complain about not having a true representative to vote for. One finally shows ups, puts forth a realistic platform, and loses to a reality tv celeb, known for bad investments, changing wives more often than tires, hobnobbing with liberals, and hyperbole.... and that's the guy who gets the nod. Obama started the trend, and with the nomination of Trump, America has officially entered the "cult of personality" realm.

    Kut (sees the writing on the wall)


    100% correct. Trump has soundly defeated Cruz, can't take that away from him. Apparently America just isn't as conservative as I thought. We had a very strong constitutional conservative (and the biggest advocate for gun rights you will find in Washington) run and he was widely rejected.

    I am am going to change my voter registration from "Republican" to "No Party Affiliation" today. With the last three Republican nominees, McCain, Romney and now it will be Trump, I am obviously not a Republican.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    100% correct. Trump has soundly defeated Cruz, can't take that away from him. Apparently America just isn't as conservative as I thought. We had a very strong constitutional conservative (and the biggest advocate for gun rights you will find in Washington) run and he was widely rejected.

    I am am going to change my voter registration from "Republican" to "No Party Affiliation" today. With the last three Republican nominees, McCain, Romney and now it will be Trump, I am obviously not a Republican.

    Problem is, most of the GOP aren't Republicans (or conservative) either. I think that was part of Trump's appeal. I think if Cruz could have coopted some of Trump's rhetoric on things like immigration, etc., then he may have swayed things his way. As it was, it just seemed he was trying to be a little too careful so as not to alienate anyone. Trump may indeed be full of hot air, but at least he put it out there without regard to political correctness and obviously a lot of people liked that.
     

    historian

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    Indiana, and the rest of America, has proven to me that Americans are easily distracted by shiny rocks. I've listened to conservatives for YEARS complain about not having a true representative to vote for. One finally shows ups, puts forth a realistic platform, and loses to a reality tv celeb, known for bad investments, changing wives more often than tires, hobnobbing with liberals, and hyperbole.... and that's the guy who gets the nod. Obama started the trend, and with the nomination of Trump, America has officially entered the "cult of personality" realm.

    Kut (sees the writing on the wall)

    REP NAZI said:
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Kutnupe14 again.

    Yup.
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    I walked in this morning and asked for the Libertarian ticket. She said, "You can't have that one. Today you have to vote Republican or Democrat since it's the primary." I said, "OK; give me the Republican ballot." and as I walked away, a lightbulb went off in my head. "No, wait a minute, give me the Democrat one." She signaled to the dude at the insanely silly iPad contraption looking thing and indicated to click the D ballot.

    I cast my first vote in the Hoosier for Booynie Sanduhs. Because f#@k Hillary, that's why.

    Did you intend to cast the majority of your votes in the general for Democrats?

    I also voted in the primaries against Hillary Clinton. I think a lot of others did the same. Because **** HRC. I'm squarely in the "anyone but HRC" camp. I would actually vote for Hitler before I'd vote for her.

    I feel like I need a shower after going into the voting booth.....

    Did you vote in the last general, and if so were the majority of your votes for Democrats?

    Good thing we need an ID to vote, so that people can't intentionally violate the law.

    FTFY

    Indiana, and the rest of America, has proven to me that Americans are easily distracted by shiny rocks. I've listened to conservatives for YEARS complain about not having a true representative to vote for. One finally shows ups, puts forth a realistic platform, and loses to a reality tv celeb, known for bad investments, changing wives more often than tires, hobnobbing with liberals, and hyperbole.... and that's the guy who gets the nod. Obama started the trend, and with the nomination of Trump, America has officially entered the "cult of personality" realm.

    Kut (sees the writing on the wall)

    Yep and I'd rep you if the Sanders system would let me.


    I am am going to change my voter registration from "Republican" to "No Party Affiliation" today.

    If you live in IN, how do you intend to do that?
     

    seedubs1

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    You can claim whatever party you want. Majority of your votes from the previous election puts you in whatever party automatically, but all you have to do is say "nope, I'm now xyz party" in order to change.

    And if you're putting your own name out there and running for office, you just have to get approval from the party chair if you voted for the other party in the previous election.

    In reality.....The portion of regulation you're citing doesn't matter. Not at all.

    Did you vote in the last general, and if so were the majority of your votes for Democrats?
     

    Tombs

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    Indiana, and the rest of America, has proven to me that Americans are easily distracted by shiny rocks. I've listened to conservatives for YEARS complain about not having a true representative to vote for. One finally shows ups, puts forth a realistic platform, and loses to a reality tv celeb, known for bad investments, changing wives more often than tires, hobnobbing with liberals, and hyperbole.... and that's the guy who gets the nod. Obama started the trend, and with the nomination of Trump, America has officially entered the "cult of personality" realm.

    Kut (sees the writing on the wall)

    Drop the pseudo-intellectual garbage. The seven mountain dominionist and the arrogant child both dropped out because the American people saw straight through their nonsense.

    Say what you want about Trump, but he's in it to win and to fight hard. Meanwhile the rest of the republican party is sitting around trying to strategize how to lose the election so they can delude themselves into thinking it's a victory.
     

    BigBoxaJunk

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    Drop the pseudo-intellectual garbage. The seven mountain dominionist and the arrogant child both dropped out because the American people saw straight through their nonsense.

    I know, you sure can't get any kind of funny business past the shrewd and thoughtful wisdom of the American voter.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Drop the pseudo-intellectual garbage. The seven mountain dominionist and the arrogant child both dropped out because the American people saw straight through their nonsense.

    Say what you want about Trump, but he's in it to win and to fight hard. Meanwhile the rest of the republican party is sitting around trying to strategize how to lose the election so they can delude themselves into thinking it's a victory.

    I have no doubt that Trump is in it to win. The question is whether he's in it out of a legitimate concern about the welfare of America, or if he's doing it purely out of seeking personal glory.
    Trump winning the nomination, after Obama, Bush, and Clinton, is a testament more to our continued ignorance, than us "seeing through... nonsense." We haven't become magically smarter... and it debatable if we aren't getting dumber.
    Trump promises a wall... paid for by Mexico. Who the **** actually believes that? Honestly? The border between the U.S. and Mexico is 1989 miles. You willing to put your money where your mouth is, that he won't get 100 miles of this magical wall put up before he leaves office? I suggest you don't. That's a suckers bet.
    And what's the rest of Trump's platform? I know what he says he wants to do.... parity in trade, strong military, blah, blah, blaaahh. It would be REALLY nice if he came up with a plan to do it, besides say he surrounds himself with "really smart people." He's big on ideas, but light on implementation.

    But maybe I'm missing something. Can you tell me why you think Trump is the man for the job? Well, other than the "he'll make America Great Again." Ronald Reagan, circa 1980.
     

    Tombs

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    I have no doubt that Trump is in it to win. The question is whether he's in it out of a legitimate concern about the welfare of America, or if he's doing it purely out of seeking personal glory.
    Trump winning the nomination, after Obama, Bush, and Clinton, is a testament more to our continued ignorance, than us "seeing through... nonsense." We haven't become magically smarter... and it debatable if we aren't getting dumber.
    Trump promises a wall... paid for by Mexico. Who the **** actually believes that? Honestly? The border between the U.S. and Mexico is 1989 miles. You willing to put your money where your mouth is, that he won't get 100 miles of this magical wall put up before he leaves office? I suggest you don't. That's a suckers bet.
    And what's the rest of Trump's platform? I know what he says he wants to do.... parity in trade, strong military, blah, blah, blaaahh. It would be REALLY nice if he came up with a plan to do it, besides say he surrounds himself with "really smart people." He's big on ideas, but light on implementation.

    But maybe I'm missing something. Can you tell me why you think Trump is the man for the job? Well, other than the "he'll make America Great Again." Ronald Reagan, circa 1980.

    Because he's the only person running as a republican who has the media wits to actually defeat hillary. Current polls are practically irrelevant, just like how everyone thought Trump had no real chance or path to victory, much less a path to 1237 delegates. He knows what he's doing and he's terrifyingly effective at it.

    If he does implement 1/100th of what his policies are, we will be in a vastly better place. If he fails to accomplish anything then we don't have to put up with the family who caused the recession, in the white house.

    I don't know about you, but I would have trouble thinking of better policies than he has outlined. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
    Of course you'll just say he's a phony and a liar, at which point you can dismiss all meaningful arguments and walk the discussion off into your fabricated fantasy land, which makes any and all forms of debate with you completely pointless.
     
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