. Indy children's museum and Indy Zoo's policy on ccw

[Iceman]

I went to the children's museum with my family a couple weeks ago. I was NOT carrying at the time. I tried to make a note, and I did not see any signs/notifications/security, etc that would prevent you from carrying. Many of you have pointed out that there is a school on the premises and it is therefore a gun free zone. During my visit, I did not see any signs that would notify me that there was a school there. I am curious how you guys know there is a school there - thanks for making this thread - without reading here, it would have been my impression that there was no policy against carry. Maybe I'm just blind, but I didn't see any signs, etc that would lead me to believe the children's museum is a school as well. Any advice for how to know where there are gun free (or gun friendly) zones?

 

[Scutter01]

I am curious how you guys know there is a school there

Children's Museum Preschool | The Children's Museum of Indianapolis

This is a great example of why the school VDZ law is wrong. You can unwittingly become a felon because you stepped foot on property classified as a school and you had no idea.

 

[Car Ramrod]

I never knew the Children's Museum was "off limits." I have a friend who has carried there numerous times, and apparently, unknowingly broken the law.

I am still confused as to why daycares and preschools are considered schools. Can anyone show me the IC that defines them as schools? All I have been able to find is the definition of Charter School, Elementary (K-8), and High/Secondary school (9-12). None of these definitions would seem to include a daycare or a preschool.

 

[mtgasten]

I think a quick use of the search function should bring this up, but...If seen at the Zoo you will be asked to return your gun to your car, if you refuse you will be asked to leave, if you refuse you will be trespassed. I know, because its where I work. if you have any questions message me and I will see if I can answer them.

 

[Captain Morgan]

I think a quick use of the search function should bring this up, but...If seen at the Zoo you will be asked to return your gun to your car, if you refuse you will be asked to leave, if you refuse you will be trespassed. I know, because its where I work. if you have any questions message me and I will see if I can answer them.

Mind if I ask what kind of security the zoo has in place? I'd like to know if someone else will be protecting my family and I if I choose not to protect us.

 

[Scutter01]

I never knew the Children's Museum was "off limits." I have a friend who has carried there numerous times, and apparently, unknowingly broken the law.

I am still confused as to why daycares and preschools are considered schools. Can anyone show me the IC that defines them as schools? All I have been able to find is the definition of Charter School, Elementary (K-8), and High/Secondary school (9-12). None of these definitions would seem to include a daycare or a preschool.

Schools defined.

IC 35-41-1-24.7
"School property" defined
Sec. 24.7. "School property" means the following:
(1) A building or other structure owned or rented by:
(A) a school corporation;
(B) an entity that is required to be licensed under IC 12-17.2 or IC 31-27;
(C) a private school that is not supported and maintained by funds realized from the imposition of a tax on property, income, or sales; or
(D) a federal, state, local, or nonprofit program or service operated to serve, assist, or otherwise benefit children who are at least three (3) years of age and not yet enrolled in kindergarten, including the following:
(i) A Head Start program under 42 U.S.C. 9831 et seq.
(ii) A special education preschool program.
(iii) A developmental child care program for preschool children.
(2) The grounds adjacent to and owned or rented in common with a building or other structure described in subdivision (1).

IC 20-18-2-16
"School corporation"
Sec. 16. (a) "School corporation", for purposes of this title (except IC 20-20-33, IC 20-26-1 through IC 20-26-5, IC 20-26-7, IC 20-30-8, and IC 20-43), means a public school corporation established by Indiana law. The term includes a:
(1) school city;
(2) school town;
(3) school township;
(4) consolidated school corporation;
(5) metropolitan school district;
(6) township school corporation;
(7) county school corporation;
(8) united school corporation; or
(9) community school corporation.
(b) "School corporation", for purposes of IC 20-26-1 through IC 20-26-5 and IC 20-26-7, has the meaning set forth in IC 20-26-2-4.
(c) "School corporation", for purposes of IC 20-20-33 and IC 20-30-8, includes a charter school (as defined in IC 20-24-1-4).
(d) "School corporation", for purposes of IC 20-43, has the meaning set forth in IC 20-43-1-23.

 

[Scutter01]

I know, because its where I work. if you have any questions message me and I will see if I can answer them.

How would I go about renting a penguin?

 

[lovemachine]

How would I go about renting a penguin?

What would you do with said penguin?

 

[eldirector]

What would you do with said penguin?

He needs a date for a formal dinner. Of course, if the penguin is in the tuxedo, then Scutter must be in the evening gown....

 

[lovemachine]

then Scutter must be in the evening gown....

How is that any different from any other day?

 

[92LX]

What would you do with said penguin?

How would I go about renting a penguin?

Haven't you seen Madagascar.......Penguins are deadly.

 

[Scutter01]

What would you do with said penguin?

Why you gotta ask so many questions?

 

[CTS]

Since no one answered the second part of your question, I'm sure they do have some security guards there but my family and I are frequent visitors and I don't recall ever seeing one. The museum does absolutely nothing to actually "secure" that environment.

 

[Trigger Time]

I think a quick use of the search function should bring this up, but...If seen at the Zoo you will be asked to return your gun to your car, if you refuse you will be asked to leave, if you refuse you will be trespassed. I know, because its where I work. if you have any questions message me and I will see if I can answer them.

Don't taze me bro.

 

[mtgasten]

Since no one answered the second part of your question, I'm sure they do have some security guards there but my family and I are frequent visitors and I don't recall ever seeing one. The museum does absolutely nothing to actually "secure" that environment.

there are indeed security guards, not sure how you haven't seen them, they patrol the parking lots and walk through the zoo all the time. And I agree the childrens museum isn't secured very well AND in a bad neighborhood

ETA: just realized you're probably talking about being frequent visitors to the Children's Museum woops! lol

 

[Dead Duck]

Mind if I ask what kind of security the zoo has in place? I'd like to know if someone else will be protecting my family and I if I choose not to protect us.

They have guys with Whips and Chairs.

 

[Bill of Rights]

How would I go about renting a penguin?

You have to be on a mission from God.

Alas, however, since 2001, you can no longer rent the Penguin.

But if you could, you'd have to be wary of that nasty ruler of hers.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[BehindBlueI's]

How would I go about renting a penguin?

This thread just took a turn for the awesome.

 

[Pinchaser]

I saw an article on msnbc about the 25 most dangerous neighborhoods in america. The childrens museum is located in one of the top 15 most dangerous neighborhoods. Just something to consider before going in unarmed.

You gave credence to something found on MSNBC?

 

[Pinchaser]

Mind if I ask what kind of security the zoo has in place? I'd like to know if someone else will be protecting my family and I if I choose not to protect us.

They have the most effective security device ever invented by man for getting anyone who has no reason to be there running for the exit as quickly as possible:

Screaming, annoying kids. Hundreds of them at times. Who in their right mind would go there if they didn't have to take their screaming, annoying kid?

You'll be completely safe. Your car may be stolen or broken into while you're inside but you will be protected.