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Interesting video on why caliber wars are pointless
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Clay Pigeon
Shooter
Where ever the Caliber Wars Travel too, they always return to 9MM Parabellum. 
The countless hours in discussion of calibers could've been dedicated to other topics: OC v CC, wallet stealing State Troopers, the Boner Drone, CM's age, 1911 v Glock, AR v AK, beating dead horses, no horse is too dead to beat... 
Clay Pigeon
Shooter
He said Boner Drone...... IBTL
Calling it the MQ-74C Remotely Piloted Multi-Purpose Aerial Vehicle would've caused confusion. The C-Model (post-Block 25 upgrade) has both FLIR and BONER capability. The older B-Models had FLIR or BONER.
profjeremy
Sharpshooter
Definitely an interesting video! Thanks for sharing. My takeaway from that is that both my EDC and home defense gun should be an AR-10 pistol 
What handgun cartridge do you trust will kill a deer humanely with one shot, and a maximum of two shots? 22lr? 380acp, 38 special? 9mm? 45acp? 40 S&W? 10mm? 41 magnum? 44 magnum? 500 S&W magnum? Or something in between? Talking about 200lb grain feed Indiana White Tail.
Irrelevant. How many deer have run off after having been shot in the vitals with 30-30, 308, etc?
Hunting is about putting meat in the freezer. Self defense is about stopping aggression. Shoot early and often, regardless of caliber.
"One shot stop" is a lie.
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Exactly. This is why debating handgun rounds means absolutely nothing. You shoot until what you are shooting at stops.
led4thehed2
Sharpshooter
Thank you for sharing. This video is able to sum up more clearly/specifically/scientifically what I had concluded through my research; that most major handgun calibers have pretty similar performance in ballistics gel, and are far less effective than centerfire rifle rounds at incapacitating/killing. Rifle rounds tend to be lighter weight projectiles compared to handguns, so their speed seemed to be what made them much more deadly.
I was never able to determine at what speed a projectile becomes so much more deadly, and was interested to hear these fellas could basically give you a velocity where a projectile can cause damage to tissue that is NOT directly in it's flight path. 2,200 fps- that's good to know.
So I'll agree with the title of the video - handgun caliber wars are pointless, one isn't really THAT much better than another, and that's why I shoot and carry 9 mm. I have always been impressed with Lucky Gunner's videos and their approach to information. Thanks again.
I was never able to determine at what speed a projectile becomes so much more deadly, and was interested to hear these fellas could basically give you a velocity where a projectile can cause damage to tissue that is NOT directly in it's flight path. 2,200 fps- that's good to know.
So I'll agree with the title of the video - handgun caliber wars are pointless, one isn't really THAT much better than another, and that's why I shoot and carry 9 mm. I have always been impressed with Lucky Gunner's videos and their approach to information. Thanks again.
Where ever the Caliber Wars Travel too, they always return to 9MM Parabellum.
And yet it's not worthy of hunting with...nor does it even penetrate something as simple as a car windshield adequately, if at all...ricochet's galore!
I love a .357 magnum for deer...not into .44 magnum, personally! At a very close range...25' or so...
I would try a .45 acp if I have a 5" or 6" barreled pistol to get it up to speed, along with the right load to handle it.
But .45 Super...I would use that load! I would also try a 10mm, .41 magnum, or 500 S&W...if I had any of those calibers!
You'd better get on the horn with the FBI, the US military and a majority of police departments in the US and let them know of your findings. Eventually, they're probably gonna have to shoot through a windshield, and that would be a really bad time to find out that their bullets bounce off of glass.
Weird that they didn't do any testing of their pistol ammo before issuing the stuff.
NOT TRUE!!! My pocket carried .50BMG can turn my enemy into mist.
If that is not enough, my shoulder slung 20mm Vulcan cannon usually will end the disagreement.
/SARCASM
I work at vehicle repair facility in chicago,south side, I have pulled 9mm bullets that have penetrated any body panel, glass, interior component and usually several components before coming to rest IN another component. The penetration of 9mm, .380, even .22 would obviously surprise you.
