Irish Fest

[Jim W.]

Anyone going to the Irish Fest? Any problem CCing there?

 

[MrsGungho]

Anyone going to the Irish Fest? Any problem CCing there?

yes and no

 

[Jim W.]

Cool, Ill be the one with a Kilt on. Ill be wearing a thigh holster under it.

 

[MrsGungho]

Cool, Ill be the one with a Kilt on. Ill be wearing a thigh holster under it.

 

[jbombelli]

Cool, Ill be the one with a Kilt on. Ill be wearing a thigh holster under it.

You won't be the only one with a kilt on. But I won't be wearing a thigh holster. This is one of those few times I won't be carrying *on* my person.

 

[grunt soldier]

the past 2 years i have been and carried. no problems at all but i was cc'ing. don't think i'll make it this year due to working.

 

[youngda9]

Where is this Irish fest you speak of?

 

[Kcustom45]

Downtown (Indianapolis) at Military Park.

Indy's Irish Festival in Downtown Indianapolis

 

[SideArmed]

A bunch of people talking about going to it here.

 

[printcraft]

I would love to go but they have all that violence and gang activity going on during the fest.
I'll think I'll skip it unless they bring on the extra 500 cops like they did for the last one.

 

[minuteman32]

Cool, Ill be the one with a Kilt on. Ill be wearing a thigh holster under it.

"Is that an extended magazine, or are you just happy to be here?"

 

[infebious]

My wife, daughter, and I were just refused entrance to the Irish Fest b/c my wife was carrying her pistol in her purse. We are both properly Licensed. I asked to speak to a supervisor, who came out and told me it was a private event and firearms were not allowed.

I asked to speak to his supervisor or a law enforcement officer, to which he only put me on the radio with someone, who repeated the same "private event, you can't carry"...

I asked them to show me in writing their policy of no handguns, which they were unable to do. Even on their website it doesn't say to leave your guns at home...

Is the Irish Festival allowed to deny entrance to lawfully carrying patrons?

Did some research of the current law, and my non-lawyer guess is "I guess they can keep me from carrying a gun at their event" b/c:

Sec. 4. This chapter may not be construed to prevent any of the following:

(10) For an event occurring on property leased from a political subdivision or municipal corporation by the promoter or organizer of the event:
(A) the establishment, by the promoter or organizer, at the

promoter's or organizer's own discretion, of rules of conduct or admission upon which attendance at or participation in the event is conditioned; or
(B) the implementation or enforcement of the rules of conduct or admission described in clause (A) by a political subdivision or municipal corporation in connection with the event.

source: http://www.in.gov/legislative/bills/2011/SE/SE0292.1.html

 

[femurphy77]

I suspect we'll probably be seeing a lot more of these "private" events on public property. Seems somewhat dubious, the ability of the .gov to rent out "public" property for "private" events. At any rate I think they have discovered their loophole to keep us from exercising our rights. "No Sir you may not carry on the Monon, they have it rented out for a special event today, Yes Sir I realize they are only using 12 feet of the trail but they rented the whole trail. No where in the lease agreement does it say they have to use the whole thing but the gun restriction is for the entire leased property. Have a nice day sir!"

 

[infebious]

Then they'll say that since all private property is subject to property tax it is really just leased from them too, and start to work out another way to take my liberty while boasting of how liberating they've been.

 

[sharpetop]

I guess I'm to the age/attitude that I don't want the hassle of these public events, ie., ball games, Octoberfest, Irishfest, concerts, etc. Years ago you could go to these places and not be strip searched, poked and prodded. Screw um' if they don't want my money.

 

[J_Wales]

Not sure what their "policy" is, but I have gone for years and have always cc'd just like I do about every place else I go.

Concealed means concealed.

 

[Jim W.]

I was there and I was CCing. I guess they didn't want to look under my kilt. Should I be sad or happy? Maybe I'm too old for looking.

 

[Delmar]

My wife, daughter, and I were just refused entrance to the Irish Fest b/c my wife was carrying her pistol in her purse. We are both properly Licensed. I asked to speak to a supervisor, who came out and told me it was a private event and firearms were not allowed.

I asked to speak to his supervisor or a law enforcement officer, to which he only put me on the radio with someone, who repeated the same "private event, you can't carry"...

I asked them to show me in writing their policy of no handguns, which they were unable to do. Even on their website it doesn't say to leave your guns at home...

Is the Irish Festival allowed to deny entrance to lawfully carrying patrons?

Did some research of the current law, and my non-lawyer guess is "I guess they can keep me from carrying a gun at their event" b/c:

Sec. 4. This chapter may not be construed to prevent any of the following:

(10) For an event occurring on property leased from a political subdivision or municipal corporation by the promoter or organizer of the event:
(A) the establishment, by the promoter or organizer, at the

promoter's or organizer's own discretion, of rules of conduct or admission upon which attendance at or participation in the event is conditioned; or
(B) the implementation or enforcement of the rules of conduct or admission described in clause (A) by a political subdivision or municipal corporation in connection with the event.

source: Enrolled Act, Senate Bill 0292

You might as well have turn around and left as soon as they asked to look in your wife's purse.

 

[eatsnopaste]

you didn't tell her what time to come back and pick you up?

 

[SideArmed]

The question is who is "puts on" the event?

I would think that if it is the city that puts on the event then they are violating the new laws. If it is a private company then they would need some form of lease agreement. Sounds like if they don't have an agreement then it may be time to call them on it.