Is Colion Noir right about open carry?

[wtburnette]

I won't mention names, but my favorite trainers hosted a bigger name regional/national trainer. We were all going to dinner after the class, when the big name guy got in my ear about John OCing into the restaurant. "Hey we're gonna have to talk to John about that. He can't be doing that..."


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Yep, I've heard it plenty of times. I wonder if there's a correlation that a lot of the big name trainers have LEO backgrounds?

 

[KLB]

I went back through and didn't see it...



You're welcome.

It was post 16.

 

[KLB]

That thread has the entire history of the argument including the cultural updates. I don’t think it has to be the only thread that can exist on the topic. It’s a good point of reference to point people to. I don’t think anyone is pushing for mods to merge this one into that one.

Exactly. It's also the first thread you see in the Carry Issues Forum.

 

[wtburnette]

It was post 16.

Oh well, it's soon to be a new year and I won't care then either...

 

[edporch]

This open or concealed carry debate keeps coming up over and over again.
Open or concealed carry is simply an individual's choice, with no right or wrong answer.

 

[NHT3]

This open or concealed carry debate keeps coming up over and over again.
Open or concealed carry is simply an individual's choice, with no right or wrong answer.

Agreed, The only wrong answer is to assure everyone that you have the answer.. We all will live with the decisions we make, good and bad.

 

[jerrob]

Being the non-confrontationalist and realist I am, I think I have an amicable solution to the two biggest 2A arguments.

1) OC VS. CC
Carry both ways, leave the OC unloaded and when the little girl takes it, pull out the CC and game on................everyone's happy, except the little girl.

2) 45 VS. 9mm
I have, a great expense, cross bred the 45 and 9mm to make the ultimate round for knock down power and capacity. I call it the..................49 calimeter.

YOU'RE WELCOME!

 

[wcd]

I won't mention names, but my favorite trainers hosted a bigger name regional/national trainer. We were all going to dinner after the class, when the big name guy got in my ear about John OCing into the restaurant. "Hey we're gonna have to talk to John about that. He can't be doing that..."


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Initials MA ?

 

[Sigblitz]

Sometimes oc is more comfortable, like in the shower.

 

[Nazgul]

Amish44:
"I've taught my kids from the get-go...that how people perceive you and, as a result, respond to you, is all in how you present yourself...from your clothing choices to your attitude / demeanor, etc....you can influence how people perceive and respond you simply by your presentation to them.
Arrogance and aggressiveness are both responded to in a defensive manner, etc.
Having a mature and respectful approach, will often open the door for other conversations."

This. I am always aware of others when we are out, wife is the same way. Not so much to do with being armed as it is our nature to be observant . We see OC'ers occassionally and first thing I do is look hard at the individual . Read the look in the eyes and body language. Often it is a smart a** look and demeanor. Especially if they notice me. The ones that are at ease and seemingly in control with smooth movements do not set off the radar.

My $.02.

Don

 

[Hawkeye]

This open or concealed carry debate keeps coming up over and over again.
Open or concealed carry is simply an individual's choice, with no right or wrong answer.

Heresy! Ye shall cast out the heretics and condemn them to the eternal fire. There is only one true way. (I just forget which it is...)

 

[patience0830]

Glad we have you out there policing the internet and keeping the world safe.

Somebody gotta do it. NHT3 is a long time and respected member. May you get to be so lucky.

 

[patience0830]

Why is it that when open carry comes up in a new thread, people are quick to try and quarantine the discussion to a single thread started almost 13 years ago? Is there any other subject where this happens?

Am I allowed to start a 9mm vs 45 thread?

No

 

[ECS686]

My point is that I've not seen any other topic on INGO that will bring out the quarantine squad like this one.

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I’d say the ones that criticize those that decide to not jump in the RDS train are a close second!

 

[Route 45]

I’d say the ones that criticize those that decide to not jump in the RDS train are a close second!

I've yet to see open carry combined with one of those huge goofy enclosed emitter RDS, but if I do, I hope my insurance covers the minor surgery I'm going to need to unroll my eyes.

 

[2AforLife1911]

Somebody gotta do it. NHT3 is a long time and respected member. May you get to be so lucky.

Yep, got to protect you from dangerous viewpoints that hurt your feelings or damage your fragile ego. I'm sure Zuckerberg appreciates his service.

 

[chipbennett]

I didn't watch either video or read prior thread comments.

If Colion's opinion is that his preference for his own method of carry is concealed rather than open, then his opinion is correct. If his opinion is that everyone should carry according to his own preference, then his opinion is incorrect.

Just carry: in whatever manner (safely) that you choose, for whatever (lawful, wise) reasons you choose.

 

[gglass]

He is neither right nor wrong. Open and concealed carry are simply choices that people make, and as such, they must take responsibility for their actions.

The times I have open carried, I keep my head on a swivel, and stay extra vigilant to people who are getting near me. If someone chooses to open carry in a relaxed and oblivious state, then any negative thing that happens is on them, and hopefully they can live with that.

 

[bobzilla]

It;s been a while since I've seen the INGO approved forehead carry.

 

[chipbennett]

He is neither right nor wrong. Open and concealed carry are simply choices that people make, and as such, they must take responsibility for their actions.

The times I have open carried, I keep my head on a swivel, and stay extra vigilant to people who are getting near me. If someone chooses to open carry in a relaxed and oblivious state, then any negative thing that happens is on them, and hopefully they can live with that.

So, in other words: their skirt was too short, so it was their fault they were raped?